Woman claims Southwest Airlines worker discriminated against her (another Fattie)

mpenguin1 said:
President of a Cosmetic company, a little on the cheap side to be flying Southwest.
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I happen to fly for a VERY comfy attorney and his wife (a well-known politician's sister), and they both fly exclusively on SWA . . .

It's not simply a matter of "Cheap" - they both enjoy flying on Southwest more than any other airline.

That is, of course, only when they can't Fly With Lloyd . . . :rawk:
 
mtsu_av8er said:
Please tell me that you're not being serious . . .
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I'm exaggerating but there are clearly far too many overweight individuals in this country and most of it can be attributed to laziness and poor eating habits.
 
Problem solved.

Option 1) Put all people over 150lbs (female) and 250lbs (male) in a vented cargo container and throw 'em some deep fried twinkes to hold 'em over.

Option 2) Use real weights for everyone and (just like the old airplane ride days) charge a nickel a pound, a buck a pound etc. on top of the fare. That way everyone pays their fare share.

Option 3) When a fat person checks in hand them a Greyhound ticket in return.
 
Chris_Ford said:
I'm exaggerating but there are clearly far too many overweight individuals in this country and most of it can be attributed to laziness and poor eating habits.
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Yes, there are a great many over-weight people in the country. However, saying that they're disgusting, and that they can't die fast enough?

Come on, man. I know you're young, but don't make yourself sound like a freaking idiot. Some folks here probably won't say it, but saying those things make you sound bad, will make people lose a great deal of respect for you, and will probably be offensive to just about everyone - everybody has a friend or family member that's overweight.

Just a note - there are far too many people that don't do well in high school, and that can be attributed to laziness and poor study habits. That doesn't mean that they should just hurry up and die.

Anyway, I've said enough about that. You probably owe an apology for completely un-called for and insensitive statements. If you don't want to give it, well - I can't make you.
 
I'm not trying to be insensitive to obese people, but I agree with SWA on this one. Being a commuter, I have been stuck next to someone overweight a few times, and it is very uncomfortable, for both of us. There was one time I went to take my middle seat between two large men, and one started getting on my case about "squeezing them in" since I was a non-rev. I just about lost it, but was able to keep cool. I was boiling the rest of the flight, just sitting wedged in without armrests between the two men, trying to sleep.

I have overweight people in my family, so I don't just go throwing out insults to people who are overweight. But their condition is directly related to exercise and eating habits. We live in a fast-paced fast-food society now, chock full of bad foods and lazy TV-watching nights.

Once again, I agree with this SWA policy, and I wish other airlines would comply as well.

By the way, something to think about: If someone weighs 350 lbs, they are nearly twice the FAA mandated passenger weight for our W&B manifests. If they were taking up two seats, they would be counted as two people, and noted accordingly on the manifest. So if your plane is half-full of people 250-350 lbs, imagine how overweight you are for takeoff/landing/MZFW?
 
mtsu_av8er said:
You probably owe an apology for completely un-called for and insensitive statements. If you don't want to give it, well - I can't make you.
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I'll apologize for the way that I said it, but being overweight is a huge huge health risk, and a lot of people don't realize that, and only care about how they're perceived by society. And I'm not talking about people who are 20-30 lbs overweight, I'm more aiming my statements at the 800 lb individuals who have to have their walls knocked out when they're taken to the hospital for that heart attack at the age of 28. I just can't believe that someone could do that to his/her self.

The TV show The Biggest Loser is on. The philosophy is rather straight forward, these people start exercising more and eating better. On average I've seen them lose upwards of 20-30% of their body weight. What's key is that the people on the show provide the impetus to start losing weight. It's a lot of work at first, but eventually the process of exercising becomes more and more a part of one's life. I don't understand what about that philosophy is so difficult to people?

The way I liken it is to someone who is unintelligent. A lot of people will just be content that they aren't that smart rather than trying to fix their problem, which doesn't make much sense.... But I guess I'm just too much of an advocate for bettering one's self while they're alive, because you can't really do much in the grave.

So I'm sorry if I'm being a tad drab but seeing people hurt themselves this way is akin to seeing someone freebasing on the corner in the city. It's just that one is a lot quicker than the other to the inevitable.
 
Chris_Ford said:
I'm exaggerating but there are clearly far too many overweight individuals in this country and most of it can be attributed to laziness and poor eating habits.
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And your the epitome of health Chris your what maybe 5'8" 125-135lbs.?
 
This Is My Kind Of Thread!!

mpenguin1 said:
I found a better picture, she is a big gal! What a shame, she is smart enough to start her own business, and then involved in a BS lawsuit...


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UHHH -DID SHE STEAL THOSE BREASTS FROM A HOLSTEIN?!

ANYWAY, WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING FAT? I SHAGGED A HOT CHICK AND ONLY AFTERWARD REALIZED SHE WAS USING ME TO FIND DR. EVILS' SECRET LAIR.......GREAT SEX THOUGH, AND SHE LOVED MY SEXY BODY!! (LOL)

ANYWAY, ANYONE SEE THAT EPISODE OF FAMILY GUY CALLED THE FAT GUY STRANGLER? IN THIS ONE SCENE THERE'S THIS GUY WHO BELCHES UP A LIVE CHICKEN........AND THEN IS ADVICED TO START CHEWING HIS FOOD- I ABOUT PISSED MY PANTS LAUGHING SO HARD!!

I DON'T SEE WHAT'S ALL THE HUB BUB ABOUT- I UNDERSTAND WHENEVER SHE GOES TO BUFFETS THEY ASK HER TO LEAVE- AND WHEN SHE GOES TO THE CHINESE ONES THEY YELL GODZILLA!! -AND CLOSE UP.

I KNOW EVERYONE HAS HEARD OF KRISPY KREME DONUTS AND THEIR EXPANSION- YOU EVER WONDER WHY? ITS' SAID SHE -DURING HER TRAVELS -WOULD BUY OUT A WHOLE STORE, CLAIMING IT WAS FOR A BUSINESS MEETING AND HER EMPLOYEES, THEY, HOWEVER, I'M TOLD NEVER SAW A CRUST OF A JELLY DONUT.........I WONDER.....
 
FlyChicaga said:
Hey now! 5'10", 140 lbs here.
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LOL...We had a health fair today at work today. They measured height,weight,BP and BMI.

I'm 5'8" 200lbs. and have 10% body fat and most of my weight is from muscle. The nurse practitioner told me that I'm morbidly obsese and that the ideal weight for my height is 150-160lbs.

:confused:

I told her that I workout 2-3x a week. So folks...I'm morbidly obese!

:insane:

Oh yea my BP was 140/90 (if I remember correctly) is that bad?
 
Southwest is right here. If you take up two seats, you should pay for them. It's just that simple. If you don't like, it, don't fly Southwest. But personally, I think all airlines should adopt this policy. If you need two seats, you should pay for them.

It's just not right for someone to try to squeeze into one seat when the laws of physics won't let that happen. When those laws of physics dictate that they spill over into the next seat, thus squashing the person in that seat, it is an imposition to that person who paid for his seat.
 
Chris_Ford said:
6'0'' 180 lbs? Is this your perverse way of getting my stats? creep.
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HA! Damn you Chris you finally figured out my nefarious machnations...And I would have gotten away with it too,if it wasn't for you kids!
 
Shazam! You nailed it my flamebatory friend. Genetics my ass- every fatso I've ever known stright up THREW DOWN. So I say if you want to eat yourself to Jabba-esque proportions, fine. But don't expect the rest of the world to bend over backwards to accomadate you.
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My college roommate was ~5'8", 315lbs. Apparently he had an inactive thyroid ... something to the effect of his body not being able to properly digest food. While many large people would use that as an excuse as to that's the reason why they are so large ...

... my roommate went to the gym twice a day, did sit-ups/crunches at other times when we'd be in the room playing xbox or watching tv, etc ... and dropped down to about 215, enlisted in the Navy, and made it through their Basic Training.

He confirmed what I knew all along ... it doesn't matter what the excuse is ... if you get off your butt to do something about it ... it can be done. His determination has left a lasting impression with my wife and I.
 
FatBastard said:
UHHH -DID SHE STEAL THOSE BREASTS FROM A HOLSTEIN?!

ANYWAY, WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING FAT? I SHAGGED A HOT CHICK AND ONLY AFTERWARD REALIZED SHE WAS USING ME TO FIND DR. EVILS' SECRET LAIR.......GREAT SEX THOUGH, AND SHE LOVED MY SEXY BODY!! (LOL)

ANYWAY, ANYONE SEE THAT EPISODE OF FAMILY GUY CALLED THE FAT GUY STRANGLER? IN THIS ONE SCENE THERE'S THIS GUY WHO BELCHES UP A LIVE CHICKEN........AND THEN IS ADVICED TO START CHEWING HIS FOOD- I ABOUT PISSED MY PANTS LAUGHING SO HARD!!

I DON'T SEE WHAT'S ALL THE HUB BUB ABOUT- I UNDERSTAND WHENEVER SHE GOES TO BUFFETS THEY ASK HER TO LEAVE- AND WHEN SHE GOES TO THE CHINESE ONES THEY YELL GODZILLA!! -AND CLOSE UP.

I KNOW EVERYONE HAS HEARD OF KRISPY KREME DONUTS AND THEIR EXPANSION- YOU EVER WONDER WHY? ITS' SAID SHE -DURING HER TRAVELS -WOULD BUY OUT A WHOLE STORE, CLAIMING IT WAS FOR A BUSINESS MEETING AND HER EMPLOYEES, THEY, HOWEVER, I'M TOLD NEVER SAW A CRUST OF A JELLY DONUT.........I WONDER.....
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LOL even though it's all shouting, THAT is funny :)
 
The ignorance displayed in this thread amazes me ('cept for our resident •tard Chris Ford, I expect it from him anymore).

Lloyd and Max, it wasn't too long ago that people of your heritage had trouble getting a drink of water without being hassled. Max, people of your persuasion are still hassled daily. What if enough customers complained about blacks or gay people being on their flight? What if SWA decided to charge you extra simply for being black or gay? While they'd have a serious legal problem on their hands for racial discrimination, it's still open season on homosexuals in this country (and for that matter, most others on the planet), and SWA could very likely get away with a "queer surcharge" for you're simply not a protected class.

I also debate the point that when you buy a ticket, you're merely leasing x number of cubic inches/feet for the duration of the flight. If this were the case, overbooking would be illegal since you've leased that space whether you're in it or not. On the contrary, what the air carriers sell is carriage--that is, transport of an individual from point to point.

I'd be interested to learn how many SWA pax have sued over this COS policy, and what the outcomes of those suits were.
 
FlyChicaga said:
If someone weighs 350 lbs, they are nearly twice the FAA mandated passenger weight for our W&B manifests. If they were taking up two seats, they would be counted as two people, and noted accordingly on the manifest. So if your plane is half-full of people 250-350 lbs, imagine how overweight you are for takeoff/landing/MZFW?
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Isn't that the whole reason behind the policy to begin with? To me, it's just a safety issue. I thought all airlines had a similar policy.
 
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