WN Reaches New TA

[Salkadi]

Best Corn call in the industry

Only on Midnights now, the AM Corn Call was shut down after an ASAP was filed.

 

[manniax]

Only on Midnights now, the AM Corn Call was shut down after an ASAP was filed.

What is a Corn Call?

 

[Ohiopilot]

Will they likely be hiring again after the TA?

 

[titansox]

We are told to expect a class around July

 

[autosave36]

What is a Corn Call?

Iykyk

 

[LX015]

11 step top out - was 15 years. PM and Midnight shift differential pay.
Assistant pay - 98K was 57k
1st year pay - 100k
11 year pay - 177k

new schedule 5-3-5-3-5-6 (2023) 5-3-5-5- (2024). No reserve just relief lines.. Relief has a set rotation of 5-3-5-5

also 205 days work. was 223 days or something like that. So more money - less working days.

Good lord! So, are these numbers better than the US 3?

 

[manniax]

Good lord! So, are these numbers better than the US 3?

No

 

[I Like IKE]

No

$98k in training?
$100k first year pay?
That's better than AA. Their training pay is higher than our first year pay, even when you include license premium.

 

[EastCoast]

Ive heard its "industry leading". Maybe someone that is a dispatcher there can confirm.

 

[3Green.]

No

1751 hours worked. United plus 1% as of today and then United plus 4% June 1st 2023 (pay). 15 million signing bonus amongst the dispatch group. What parameters aren't better?

 

[A320guy]

No

With all the different pay buckets it is industry leading on all levels. They contract was designed to beat all current contracts.

 

[Squirrel]

Next group, Delta?

 

[manniax]

I probably spoke too quickly. It is better, just not hugely better, in terms of total pay. I'd need to see an 'all in' side by side chart to determine the exact difference. I simply meant that the total compensation is now on par with the 'Big 3', but it's not a giant leap ahead of them either.

 

[CardsInHTX]

The takeaway from this deal is basically: Congrats everybody, you just got another chance to get that shmoney.

 

[A320guy]

I probably spoke too quickly. It is better, just not hugely better, in terms of total pay. I'd need to see an 'all in' side by side chart to determine the exact difference. I simply meant that the total compensation is now on par with the 'Big 3', but it's not a giant leap ahead of them either.

I agree $2000 here and there is not a big deal in the bigger picture.

 

[LX015]

I agree $2000 here and there is not a big deal in the bigger picture.

It's probably not going to have DXers from majors jumping ship, but will definitely increase competition from the up and comers...

 

[RegionalDXer]

$98k in training?
$100k first year pay?
That's better than AA. Their training pay is higher than our first year pay, even when you include license premium.

the pay seems better but you will make more getting signed off earlier at AA and with less hours worked, your hourly rate is higher.

I probably spoke too quickly. It is better, just not hugely better, in terms of total pay. I'd need to see an 'all in' side by side chart to determine the exact difference. I simply meant that the total compensation is now on par with the 'Big 3', but it's not a giant leap ahead of them either.

Yes the SW deal is on par with the other big3.. all the big 3 have different perks so just depends on how into the defaiks

 

[iono]

getting signed off earlier at AA doesn’t change the fact that WN training pay is still higher than AA first year pay, and from what I saw the hours worked are going to be basically the same

but yeah, this brings them up with the other 3. pay-wise, all 4 now look pretty attractive

 

[LX015]

I wonder how/if the LCCs & ULCCs will follow suit.

 

[MrSlaps]

I wonder how/if the LCCs & ULCCs will follow suit.

I’d like to say they’ll end up having to. I’m not looking for SWA top out, but moving forward I’d say within 25% of it doesn’t seem unreasonable if they want to retain talent for any length of time more than a year or two.