Why not the airlines!?!?!?!?

Inverted said:
Please tell me how awesome your job is because you haven't touched a freaking airplane yet. Please go away and let the adults talk.
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Lack of irony and sarcasm appreciation in 121 people is what scares me the most about the airlines.

I touched all of our airplanes alright
They are shiny and smell new and stuff
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I actually like the Legacys, have only worked on them a little bit. The AMM and IPC are online and tailored to the serial number you're working on.
 
BigZ said:
Lack of irony and sarcasm appreciation in 121 people is what scares me the most about the airlines.

I touched all of our airplanes alright
They are shiny and smell new and stuff
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Remember push the big poos down through the flapper valve with a rolled up newspaper. Don't throw the newspapers away without checking the lav to see if there isn't a giant turd in the bowl. There is no need to keep flushing, or gasp use your hands.

Don't say I didn't do anything for ya!
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
Remember push the big poos down through the flapper valve with a rolled up newspaper. Don't throw the newspapers away without checking the lav to see if there isn't a giant turd in the bowl. There is no need to keep flushing, or gasp use your hands.

Don't say I didn't do anything for ya!
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Is that the only thing you remember out of flying bizjets? You make it sound like they never let you push any buttons or anything.
I know a retired US Airways/American 'bus captain who flew citations with us and now flies a falcon some place else. His only comment about having to stock/clean/remove 500 series lav was that hmm, he didn't have to do that in the airlines, but he went ahead and did that anyways. Didn't bitch and moan about his advanced age or seniority or collection of type ratings. Not that it would have helped, company owner was yanking that honey bucket like everyone else.
 
BigZ said:
Is that the only thing you remember out of flying bizjets? You make it sound like they never let you push any buttons or anything.
I know a retired US Airways/American 'bus captain who flew citations with us and now flies a falcon some place else. His only comment about having to stock/clean/remove 500 series lav was that hmm, he didn't have to do that in the airlines, but he went ahead and did that anyways. Didn't bitch and moan about his advanced age or seniority or collection of type ratings. Not that it would have helped, company owner was yanking that honey bucket like everyone else.
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You sound exactly like I did 10 years ago. I know there is really nothing I can say that will get through to you. Just good luck and I hope you don't get taken advantage of.


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BEEF SUPREME said:
You sound exactly like I did 10 years ago. I know there is really nothing I can say that will get through to you. Just good luck and I hope you don't get taken advantage of.
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One of these days I'm gonna have to find you and buy you a beer.
 
In my 12-ish years of corporate/frac/charter flying, I think I have had to deal with one poop issue.

And I am still waiting for Inverted to tell me the differences between sitting reserve in a crash pad and sitting at an FBO.

Inverted and Beef seem like OK guys, but holy crap are they bitter about past jobs. I would imagine that we'll be hearing about how bad Virgin America and Skywest are soon enough though.
 
I love the backhanded insults as to how my past experiences are indicative of my personality and work ethic. Pro tip. They aren't. If I'd been treated 1/2 as well at my 91/135 jobs as I have been by a regional we wouldn't be having this conversation. Like I've already mentioned I was slamming 121 operations for years. Until I worked at one.

I'll answer your question about sitting reserve in a crash pad and sitting at an FBO. One is your choice, the other isn't. I chose to move to the base I was on reserve at. So I could sit reserve from the comfort of home. I went to the zoo with my wife and son. Went to the water park daily with my son and went for bike rides on the Lakefront Trail. It cost us some rent money but I chose to spend money to spend time with family. It's an easy choice for me. For others not so much.
 
Jimmy_Norton said:
In my 12-ish years of corporate/frac/charter flying, I think I have had to deal with one poop issue.

And I am still waiting for Inverted to tell me the differences between sitting reserve in a crash pad and sitting at an FBO.

Inverted and Beef seem like OK guys, but holy crap are they bitter about past jobs. I would imagine that we'll be hearing about how bad Virgin America and Skywest are soon enough though.
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Can you go to the gym while waiting for your client at the FBO? No, because they will be there "any minute now!" But you absolutely can do that while at a crash pad with a 2 hour call out. In addition to many other activities. You also know the days and times your on call vs most 91/135 operators.
 
norcalpilot25 said:
Can you go to the gym while waiting for your client at the FBO? No, because they will be there "any minute now!" But you absolutely can do that while at a crash pad with a 2 hour call out. In addition to many other activities. You also know the days and times your on call vs most 91/135 operators.
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If you're working at a shop that has you sitting at the FBO all day, not knowing when the pax are arriving, you're doing it wrong. (not talking an occasional circumstance because the pax have something that requires it)
Many of the places I happen to look at are hiring into every airframe they operate. Even the Fortune 100 companies are forced to look at retention strategies. NBAA is writing articles about it.
Unicorn jobs are still mythically just around every corner, but your average part 91 hat hanger is getting better and good 135 is spreading the gap from scum bag operations every day. Look back rest periods, min days off a quarter and crap pay are over. If you're still doing it, get a lawyer and have that stuff expunged. Then go get a real job.
 
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