Why not the airlines!?!?!?!?

No. You need to be lined up and configured by 1,000AGL. 3nm at 300'/nm is only 900AGL. 4nm is only 1,200 AGL, which doesn't give you a lot of wiggle room to get established and stabilized, especially from a base turn. 4.5-5nm is the practical minimum.

Honestly, I like it that way. No reason to yank the folks around in back trying to make something work.

Lined up at 1000Agl besides LGA and DCA haha. That's interesting.

At AA we have no lateral stabilization requirements (that I know of). I had a know it all FO tell me we had to be wings level at 3 miles once. Of course he couldn't find it in the FM anywhere. Check airman confirmed we don't have any.

You don't have to yank it around on a tight visual. You can easily keep it smooth for the pax turning final at 500'. I've flown with plenty of guys who could wake up a dead guy just flying an ILS.
 
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" I have no interest in flying for the airlines"
5 min later
"I have no interesting in flying for the airlines right now"
5 more min
"I have my stuff in at Delta but don't update it that often"

Translation: "well I didn't want to go to the regionals when I started out so I don't really have a competitive resume since all the majors like 121 time. And I def can't go to the regionals now bc I've got a sweet 80k/yr salary and 3% 401k match. Plus going to the same islands with an old dude for days at a time over and over again looks really cool on my ig. Plus I'm off like 15 days a month (unless the boss calls and needs to go somewhere). But yea FedEx would be sweet."
 
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Translation: "well I didn't want to go to the regionals when I started out so I don't really have a competitive resume since all the majors like 121 time. And I def can't go to the regionals now bc I've got a sweet 80k/yr salary and 3% 401k match. Plus going to the same islands with an old dude for days at a time over and over again looks really cool on my ig. Plus I'm off like 15 days a month (unless the boss calls and needs to go somewhere). But yea FedEx would be sweet."

I want to puke because this is my life currently. Except I know it. And I hate it.

However the 401K match isnt even 3%. #sad
 
Maybe it's the booze but it seems to me like one of those posed photos that wasn't supposed to be posed and was "Oh, I was just doin' stuff and someone took this photo of me when I wasn't looking" type pictures.

He posted a bunch like this on his FB page. I didn't even have to make him look stupid, he did a great job of that on his own...

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Good god. I like myself a lot too. But not enough to make a collage of me doing mundane tasks while trying to look super cool.
And yet that will probably bring more people into aviation than half the regional FOs dragging their "approved for airline duty" luggage around the terminal
 
He does have cool hair... I'll give him that.

I'll admit it. Flying corporate (Part 91) was WAY more fun than the airline grind. Loved flying to cool little airports in interesting parts of the country. Grab the crew car and find lunch, play some golf, do a little touristing. Yeah, I hated long multi-day sits in places like Toluca. I admit that after the third day it felt like I was wasting my life... no use to the company, no use to my family, just babysitting the jet.

But as much as I enjoyed the unique flying and the expense account, what really turned me around on corporate flying was when for the first time in the company's history, they laid off pilots. Out of seniority order, with no chance for recall. One guy had been there 33 years and was hired by the company founder!

Then, when we started a family and realized that - even though I had plenty of days off, I couldn't control when they fell. I started missing school plays and soccer games. I wanted control over my schedule.

Finally, the retirement was the straw that broke the camels back. We had a 6% match. I was going to have to dump a whole lot of my own money into my 401K to even come close to what the major airlines simply contributed to their pilot's 401K with no match required.

I was about half way through my career, looking at the downhill side of 40 and realized... crap. I just wasted the last (lost) decade. I should've been trying to build seniority somewhere. Instead I was fat, dumb, and happy flying light jets part 91... until I wasn't anymore.

I left the first chance I got. I still miss flying cool equipment to FBOs with clean bathrooms and warm cookies, but there is absolutely NO QUESTION in my mind that I did the right thing. I only wish I had done it sooner.


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He does have cool hair... I'll give him that.

I'll admit it. Flying corporate (Part 91) was WAY more fun than the airline grind. Loved flying to cool little airports in interesting parts of the country. Grab the crew car and find lunch, play some golf, do a little touristing. Yeah, I hated long multi-day sits in places like Toluca. I admit that after the third day it felt like I was wasting my life... no use to the company, no use to my family, just babysitting the jet.

But as much as I enjoyed the unique flying and the expense account, what really turned me around on corporate flying was when for the first time in the company's history, they laid off pilots. Out of seniority order, with no chance for recall. One guy had been there 33 years and was hired by the company founder!

Then, when we started a family and realized that - even though I had plenty of days off, I couldn't control when they fell. I started missing school plays and soccer games. I wanted control over my schedule.

Finally, the retirement was the straw that broke the camels back. We had a 6% match. I was going to have to dump a whole lot of my own money into my 401K to even come close to what the major airlines simply contributed to their pilot's 401K with no match required.

I was about half way through my career, looking at the downhill side of 40 and realized... crap. I just wasted the last (lost) decade. I should've been trying to build seniority somewhere. Instead I was fat, dumb, and happy flying light jets part 91... until I wasn't anymore.

I left the first chance I got. I still miss flying cool equipment to FBOs with clean bathrooms and warm cookies, but there is absolutely NO QUESTION in my mind that I did the right thing. I only wish I had done it sooner.


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Very well stated! I felt, and still feel the same way about moving to the airlines, and did it for the same reasons!
Also, I miss the same things about it.
 
The retirement thing is the next big disaster awaiting this country. I talk to people all the time outside the industry that have very little in the way of retirement funds or planning.
 
He does have cool hair... I'll give him that.

I'll admit it. Flying corporate (Part 91) was WAY more fun than the airline grind. Loved flying to cool little airports in interesting parts of the country. Grab the crew car and find lunch, play some golf, do a little touristing. Yeah, I hated long multi-day sits in places like Toluca. I admit that after the third day it felt like I was wasting my life... no use to the company, no use to my family, just babysitting the jet.

But as much as I enjoyed the unique flying and the expense account, what really turned me around on corporate flying was when for the first time in the company's history, they laid off pilots. Out of seniority order, with no chance for recall. One guy had been there 33 years and was hired by the company founder!

Then, when we started a family and realized that - even though I had plenty of days off, I couldn't control when they fell. I started missing school plays and soccer games. I wanted control over my schedule.

Finally, the retirement was the straw that broke the camels back. We had a 6% match. I was going to have to dump a whole lot of my own money into my 401K to even come close to what the major airlines simply contributed to their pilot's 401K with no match required.

I was about half way through my career, looking at the downhill side of 40 and realized... crap. I just wasted the last (lost) decade. I should've been trying to build seniority somewhere. Instead I was fat, dumb, and happy flying light jets part 91... until I wasn't anymore.

I left the first chance I got. I still miss flying cool equipment to FBOs with clean bathrooms and warm cookies, but there is absolutely NO QUESTION in my mind that I did the right thing. I only wish I had done it sooner.


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You and me both buddy. And you landed at a way better place than I did.


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Airlines... where's the friggin excitement in that
My 135 brand spanking new jet job is better paying and more exciting than any regional during TA negotiations
And I haven't even started flying yet
 
Airlines... where's the friggin excitement in that
My 135 brand spanking new jet job is better paying and more exciting than any regional during TA negotiations
And I haven't even started flying yet

Excitement? Let me tell you about excitement!

watches rampers loading bags into the cargo hold

*covers up boner

watches captain close and lock the cockpit door

*covers up boner

listens to FAs complain about PAX in crew van

*covers up boner

watches the guys with the safety vests stock the galley

*covers up boner

FA's putting on gloves to clean the LAV

*covers up boner

Cracks a beer at the end of the reserve time and turns off phone

*covers up boner
 
I love some badass music over a van ride and a trip to Panera. And... did they go to BJ's for dinner in uniform?

It is kinda funny how bent out of shape pilots get when someone actually enjoys their job. Sure some people might think corporate sucks, but if you really like the airlines that much more, it's just one less person on a seniority list above you that's happy elsewhere.
 
Airlines... where's the friggin excitement in that
My 135 brand spanking new jet job is better paying and more exciting than any regional during TA negotiations
And I haven't even started flying yet

Please tell me how awesome your job is because you haven't touched a freaking airplane yet. Please go away and let the adults talk.
 
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