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JordanD said:
Probably not when he’s, you know, dead. Maybe people should try doing that when they’re still alive if they’re that concerned about it.
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I know that he loved Mexico and spent a lot of working and free time there and donated money and gifts to various orphanages there over the years.

"Ethan Wayne says that people have been taking his father’s words out of context. Instead of scrutinizing the words from one interview, Ethan says, people should look at the way that John Wayne lived his life. “It would be an injustice to judge someone based on an interview that’s being used out of context,” Ethan Wayne told CNN. “They’re trying to contradict how he lived his life, and how he lived his life was who he was. So, any discussion of removing his name from the airport should include the full picture of the life of John Wayne and not be based on a single outlier interview from half a century ago.”

Ethan added, “My father worked in Hollywood for 50 years, and Hollywood is probably, you know, one of the most progressive and diverse communities on Earth. He didn’t care what race, gender, sexual orientation you were. He cared how well you did your job. He took everyone at face value.”


Sigh....what will be will be. People's lives will be improved and enhanced when the airport name is changed and his statue is thrown in a landfill.
 
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A Life Aloft said:
I know that he loved Mexico and spent a lot of working and free time there and donated money and gifts to various orphanages there over the years.

"Ethan Wayne says that people have been taking his father’s words out of context. Instead of scrutinizing the words from one interview, Ethan says, people should look at the way that John Wayne lived his life. “It would be an injustice to judge someone based on an interview that’s being used out of context,” Ethan Wayne told CNN. “They’re trying to contradict how he lived his life, and how he lived his life was who he was. So, any discussion of removing his name from the airport should include the full picture of the life of John Wayne and not be based on a single outlier interview from half a century ago.”

Ethan added, “My father worked in Hollywood for 50 years, and Hollywood is probably, you know, one of the most progressive and diverse communities on Earth. He didn’t care what race, gender, sexual orientation you were. He cared how well you did your job. He took everyone at face value.”


Sigh....what will be will be.
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I think it’s why people need to get over this “people are perfect or bad” mentality that’s super common. Swap sides and people did the same thing with Ted Kennedy. Sometimes people that do good things still have a really crappy side. It’s also (IMO) the problem with running and naming things after people willy nilly, some of those names aren’t going to age well, and I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong or “woke” for some of them to not sit right. Is it disappointing? For sure.
While we’re on the topic, it’s probably an urban legend, but I heard John Wayne hated the airport and was one of the big campaigners for all the noise abatement stuff and naming it after him was kind of a backhanded thing. But it sounds way too funny to be real.
 
Derg said:
Me? Nope. Not Elvis either. My parents would say things like “Well, watch what you want but I wouldn’t watch a story or listen to a song by a person who wouldn’t shake my hand” and that was pretty much it! :)
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No, not yours. @fholbert is a bit older than you or I. I’d love to hear about his upbringing. I have no doubt that he worked hard to get to his present position and time changes everyone’s perspective. I asked for some simple insight into his formative years. I’m not an Elvis fan. My dad always told me Chuck Berry was the King.
 
Derg said:
Not Elvis either.
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I'm actually curious about that one, I know there's a pretty widely attributed racist quote from him that from what a lot of people looked into was never said, but I didn't know if there was something else.
 
JordanD said:
I think it’s why people need to get over this “people are perfect or bad” mentality that’s super common. Swap sides and people did the same thing with Ted Kennedy. Sometimes people that do good things still have a really crappy side. It’s also (IMO) the problem with running and naming things after people willy nilly, some of those names aren’t going to age well, and I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong or “woke” for some of them to not sit right. Is it disappointing? For sure.
While we’re on the topic, it’s probably an urban legend, but I heard John Wayne hated the airport and was one of the big campaigners for all the noise abatement stuff and naming it after him was kind of a backhanded thing. But it sounds way too funny to be real.
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I liked what you had to say.......thoughtful, calm and reasonable response. We need a lot more of that around here.

Lol to the "noise" issue. Maybe he was out on the Wild Goose (his yacht) on the other side of Catalina fishing for tuna and Marlin. That's kinda how I picture him........sort of like Zane Grey, I guess.
 
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JordanD said:
I'm actually curious about that one, I know there's a pretty widely attributed racist quote from him that from what a lot of people looked into was never said, but I didn't know if there was something else.
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Well, all the 50’s era music you hear today, mashed together on the oldies station is a relatively synthetic construct. Traditionally white radio stations would never dare play black music on their stations so they never enjoyed the massive commercial success that other artists did.

But then along comes Elvis who basically mimics the genre and has massive commercial success but never really says “Hey if you like this music, right down the radio dial there’s an entire diaspora of it, check it out!”

It’s like southern cooking. It’s derivative of slave food — taking the off cuts, thought-to-be inedible scraps not meant, traditionally, for human consumption and making it edible/delicious.

So when your collard greens recipe that’s been passed down for generations,it’s probably got an origin from “the help”
 
Derg said:
Well, all the 50’s era music you hear today, mashed together on the oldies station is a relatively synthetic construct. Traditionally white radio stations would never dare play black music on their stations so they never enjoyed the massive commercial success that other artists did.

But then along comes Elvis who basically mimics the genre and has massive commercial success but never really says “Hey if you like this music, right down the radio dial there’s an entire diaspora of it, check it out!”

It’s like southern cooking. It’s derivative of slave food — taking the off cuts, thought-to-be inedible scraps not meant, traditionally, for human consumption and making it edible/delicious.

So when your collard greens recipe that’s been passed down for generations,it’s probably got an origin from “the help”
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Tell me about lobster.
 
A Life Aloft said:
The John Wayne Foundation in Newport Beach has raised and continues to raise millions upon millions every single year for cancer research, families, and education. When he was alive he help fund the building of schools and various programs for kids.
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I don't really have a dog in this fight. I was only pointing out why the airport is considering a name change.
 
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