What stupid stuff have you done?

I sense something stupid may happen shortly. With our deice trucks somebody has to stand on top and stick their toes in the water tank to know when it is full.:crazy:
Oh, this can only end well....
 
This one just in from the FBO-
One of our line guys managed to collide ALL THREE school planes. He got the leading edge of one 172 with the aileron of another, and bent up the aileron and elevator of the 172RG.
 
This one just in from the FBO-
One of our line guys managed to collide ALL THREE school planes. He got the leading edge of one 172 with the aileron of another, and bent up the aileron and elevator of the 172RG.

As they say, if you're going to screw up, may as well give it 100% effort.
 
I once saw a pilot try to use the service road in his C182 to get to the runway. Unfortunately that road is only available to airport vehicles. The tower was pretty confused and their response was something like: "dude, where are you going?"
 
I once saw a pilot try to use the service road in his C182 to get to the runway. Unfortunately that road is only available to airport vehicles. The tower was pretty confused and their response was something like: "dude, where are you going?"

"expediting?" might be a good answer......:D
 
well i didnt go through the 1st 6 pages of this thread, and imagine it has already been covered. But anyways, I spilled, lets say 50+ gallons of Jet A while trusting the automatic shut off to do its job while filling the jet truck. This is the 3rd FBO ive worked at, and the 1st that didn't require that you sit on top of the truck and watch and wait for the fuel level to get to the top. I have never dealt with a spill this size, and hate to admit, i thought to myself, DAmn i wish i payed attention to line training videos. i spent the next hour or two absorbing it with kitty litter.

a question for those who have experienced similar problems: what did you do with the spilled fuel/saturated kitty litter? i work for a less than environmentally friendly operation, and was told to throw it in the dumpster. without having any better options to think of, i did. not proud of it, but dont know what else i could have done. :confused:
 
well i didnt go through the 1st 6 pages of this thread, and imagine it has already been covered. But anyways, I spilled, lets say 50+ gallons of Jet A while trusting the automatic shut off to do its job while filling the jet truck. This is the 3rd FBO ive worked at, and the 1st that didn't require that you sit on top of the truck and watch and wait for the fuel level to get to the top. I have never dealt with a spill this size, and hate to admit, i thought to myself, DAmn i wish i payed attention to line training videos. i spent the next hour or two absorbing it with kitty litter.

a question for those who have experienced similar problems: what did you do with the spilled fuel/saturated kitty litter? i work for a less than environmentally friendly operation, and was told to throw it in the dumpster. without having any better options to think of, i did. not proud of it, but dont know what else i could have done. :confused:
Heh, sounds like we worked at the same FBO. The only difference is I probably spilled about 5 times what you did. ;) Definitely not proud of it, but I wasn't the one calling the shots and I really didn't wanna lose my job.
 
When I worked the line we we neither required to be on the trucks nor were we required to stay off the trucks.......but there was one of them notes on the line managers door a few months back saying someone from NetJets saw a line guy on a truck and wasn't happy. So now they are required to stay off the trucks.
 
well i didnt go through the 1st 6 pages of this thread, and imagine it has already been covered. But anyways, I spilled, lets say 50+ gallons of Jet A while trusting the automatic shut off to do its job while filling the jet truck. This is the 3rd FBO ive worked at, and the 1st that didn't require that you sit on top of the truck and watch and wait for the fuel level to get to the top. I have never dealt with a spill this size, and hate to admit, i thought to myself, DAmn i wish i payed attention to line training videos. i spent the next hour or two absorbing it with kitty litter.

a question for those who have experienced similar problems: what did you do with the spilled fuel/saturated kitty litter? i work for a less than environmentally friendly operation, and was told to throw it in the dumpster. without having any better options to think of, i did. not proud of it, but dont know what else i could have done. :confused:


We have a used absorbent barrel that gets picked up when its full.
 
When I worked the line we we neither required to be on the trucks nor were we required to stay off the trucks.......but there was one of them notes on the line managers door a few months back saying someone from NetJets saw a line guy on a truck and wasn't happy. So now they are required to stay off the trucks.

Why was the Netjets pilot upset about a line guy getting on top of a fuel truck? Normal occurrence around here.

Our procedure is that you can fill the truck without getting on top, but if you miscalculate how much you need to put in the truck and the precheck doesn't work, you're responsible for any spills. Whatever that means.

We also have a barrel (several) for our used kitty litter. If it's not too soaked, we'll reuse it. Not sure what happens to the stuff that can't be reused.
 
Why was the NetJets pilot upset about a line guy getting on top of a fuel truck?
It doesn't necessarily mean it was a pilot. NetJets corporate makes on site audits of FBOs that we frequent. If we are talking about topping off the fuel truck, I would prefer that the line guy be on top of the truck (preferably not sleeping). If he was on top while fueling a plane...yes, I could see some problems with that.
 
It doesn't necessarily mean it was a pilot. NetJets corporate makes on site audits of FBOs that we frequent. If we are talking about topping off the fuel truck, I would prefer that the line guy be on top of the truck (preferably not sleeping).

Me too.

If he was on top while fueling a plane...yes, I could see some problems with that.

I don't really see a problem with it. I've done it plenty of times to get an idea of how much fuel is in the truck when there isn't time to check the thruputs.
 
Yeah, it was a FBO audit, like nja capt said. Not that it really affects me any more, but was interesting none the less.

Any of the rest of you that still get on the trucks do NJ stuff? and nja capt, do you have any idea why your site auditors would have an issue with non-NJ employees getting on the trucks while they are being filled? It didn't make any sense to me when I saw the note.
 
Yeah, it was a FBO audit, like nja capt said. Not that it really affects me any more, but was interesting none the less.

Any of the rest of you that still get on the trucks do NJ stuff? and nja capt, do you have any idea why your site auditors would have an issue with non-NJ employees getting on the trucks while they are being filled? It didn't make any sense to me when I saw the note.


We have the NJ contract at the FBO I work at.

We don't have those fancy side rails on the top of our trucks either.

So are you guys completely barred from getting on top of the truck? Why?
 
nja capt, do you have any idea why your site auditors would have an issue with non-NJ employees getting on the trucks while they are being filled? It didn't make any sense to me when I saw the note.
I'm sure it would be spelled out in the NJ101 documents. If I had to guess, it has more to do with monitoring and safety. You can't see the meter from the top of the tank, you can't reach any emergency shutoffs, you aren't in a position to quickly contain a spill and generally have no need to be up there while fueling. The tank holds a known quantity and the meter tells you how much has been pumped. If it is so close you have to look in the top, you need a new truck.

From a pilot standpoint, I don't like getting (dirty) fuel from the bottom of the tank anyway. It is also a pain to have to use two trucks for one fuel order.
 
I'm sure it would be spelled out in the NJ101 documents. If I had to guess, it has more to do with monitoring and safety. You can't see the meter from the top of the tank, you can't reach any emergency shutoffs, you aren't in a position to quickly contain a spill and generally have no need to be up there while fueling. The tank holds a known quantity and the meter tells you how much has been pumped. If it is so close you have to look in the top, you need a new truck.

From a pilot standpoint, I don't like getting (dirty) fuel from the bottom of the tank anyway. It is also a pain to have to use two trucks for one fuel order.


Ahh, I see. I misunderstood your post. I have been on top of the truck while someone else was pumping/monitoring the pumping process.

Also, all of our trucks pump's are gravity fed, so all of the fuel comes out the bottom of the tank anyway, in 3 locations IIRC.
 
well i didnt go through the 1st 6 pages of this thread, and imagine it has already been covered. But anyways, I spilled, lets say 50+ gallons of Jet A while trusting the automatic shut off to do its job while filling the jet truck. This is the 3rd FBO ive worked at, and the 1st that didn't require that you sit on top of the truck and watch and wait for the fuel level to get to the top. I have never dealt with a spill this size, and hate to admit, i thought to myself, DAmn i wish i payed attention to line training videos. i spent the next hour or two absorbing it with kitty litter.

a question for those who have experienced similar problems: what did you do with the spilled fuel/saturated kitty litter? i work for a less than environmentally friendly operation, and was told to throw it in the dumpster. without having any better options to think of, i did. not proud of it, but dont know what else i could have done. :confused:

You should try dealing with 5 gallons of PRIST being spilt everywhere. That stuff is scary.
 
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