VFR in IMC

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Those of you who tend to give the pilot blundering around in/near clouds the benefit of the doubt (as in, they are probably maintaining VFR in spite of appearances) should have listened to the conversation I just overheard in the FBO.

That is all.
 
I'm not an FAA inspector or a meteorologist. Don't even play one on TV.

That said, I'd be pretty ticked off if someone called the FAA to report me being 499 feet below a cloud. The only person in a position to judge the conditions in the aircraft is the person in the cockpit. Everyone else is speculating.
 
That's true drunkenbeagle. But what kind of horse's ass brags about scud running? If someone is stupid enough to run their flapper about it in earshot of others, well...here's your sign.
 
ljg said:
That's true drunkenbeagle. But what kind of horse's ass brags about scud running? If someone is stupid enough to run their flapper about it in earshot of others, well...here's your sign.
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And your violation.... If your dumb enough to talk about it, your dumb enough to get busted.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
I'm not an FAA inspector or a meteorologist. Don't even play one on TV.

That said, I'd be pretty ticked off if someone called the FAA to report me being 499 feet below a cloud. The only person in a position to judge the conditions in the aircraft is the person in the cockpit. Everyone else is speculating.
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I doubt this is an issue of 499 vs 500 ft. I knew some guys years back that had a habit of finding a sct/bkn layer of fair weather cumulus and then fly around in them VFR. I'm not talking about flying inbetween them with questionable horizontal clearance, I mean physically flying through the clouds. These same guys liked to brag about rolling their 172 and carried around pictures of it for "proof" and to try and impress people.
 
ljg said:
That's true drunkenbeagle. But what kind of horse's ass brags about scud running? If someone is stupid enough to run their flapper about it in earshot of others, well...here's your sign.
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Well, sometimes it is inadvertent. Maybe they were VFR in a Bravo 5 feet under the clouds. Who knows? Taking it out of context, it doesn't really say anything.
 
mshunter said:
And your violation.... If your dumb enough to talk about it, your dumb enough to get busted.
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First, didn't say I was. I said if someone reported it as such. Second, how would they know I wasn't SVFR? Or in a Bravo? Or I was just on with approach and cancelling IFR on another freq?

My point is, my concern is keeping me safe and legal. Not my job to be the sky police, especially when don't know all of the facts.

I'll sit back and watch now...

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Recently two airline pilots forgot their VFR Class Bravo cloud clearances as they made a comment to NY Approach regarding my distances. Controller asked if I were in the clouds, and both said no, but no way I was 500 below...

doh
 
Hey clowns, we don't even know the original story from the OP, and you're all getting worked up already!

Lighten up people......Sheesh!

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ljg said:
But what kind of horse's ass brags about scud running? If someone is stupid enough to run their flapper about it in earshot of others, well...here's your sign.
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"We probably broke just about every reg in the book *laughs*"
The kind I was listening to in the FBO.

And to the 499 foot-ers...try 200' AGL (straight from the horse's ass...er mouth). Followed by a climb to VFR on top.

The best part? The airplane had a glass cockpit system with XM weather.

Which the individual did not know how to use.

There are some STUPID people out there.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
First, didn't say I was. I said if someone reported it as such. Second, how would they know I wasn't SVFR? Or in a Bravo? Or I was just on with approach and cancelling IFR on another freq?

My point is, my concern is keeping me safe and legal. Not my job to be the sky police, especially when don't know all of the facts.

I'll sit back and watch now...

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I don't think you understood the nature of my post (again, my bad, my brain is only soo big).

If you go blabing that you were IMC, "scud running" knowing it was wrong, and a fed is sitting there listening to what your saying, you get what you deserve, was my point.

Am I going to rat someone out, not usually. I've got my own problems to deal with.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
First, didn't say I was. I said if someone reported it as such. Second, how would they know I wasn't SVFR? Or in a Bravo? Or I was just on with approach and cancelling IFR on another freq?

My point is, my concern is keeping me safe and legal. Not my job to be the sky police, especially when don't know all of the facts.

I'll sit back and watch now...

:pop:
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Oh, I'm not running to report anyone. I can't substantiate anything even if I did want to. I will, however, mock said individual on the interwebs and add them to my "never fly with" list.
 
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