US Airways Pilots Sue American Airlines Pilots

I get that this might be a joke but making fun of unions for protecting people's jobs and affording them a wage that keeps food on the table is not cool. Especially since this site embodies the whole idea of community and help one another. How many union jobs that you know of personally allow 3 hour lunch breaks? I get that this might be an inside joke but to the rest of us who work hard each and everyday to make this an affordable career it's a low blow. When a family member of mine worked for Pan Am back in the day if you tried to do anything outside of your job description you were going to be written up and disciplined.

Also you have no idea how many times, I, along with @Seggy @Cruise @SmitteyB @CAPIP1998 as well as others have dealt with management types who would argue against workers comp for moving bags or trash for that matter.

Lighten up Francis, it's called satire/joke.

My point being, if one can't police their own trash in their cockpit, and leave it for someone else to pick up; that's nothing more than being a lazy bastard.
 
It was satirical, @amorris311! :)

Besides, I think the only place where the cabin groomers are allowed into the cockpit at all are a scant few stations in Europe and I have no idea about Asia besides India where they're not. Or are they, I can't remember.

But for the most part, in lieu of digging around "green pages", theater guides and airport "best practices" sheets (or whatever they're called now), it's easier just to snap the bag off the armrest and toss it in the galley or the forward lav after the flight.
 
It chafes my hide to find half-empty water bottles, unfinished beverages and a full trash bag when I enter the cockpit because some people think mommy is going to come clean up after them......
I haaaaaaaaaate hate hate trashed cockpits.

I once swapped airplanes with another pilot, and I found a water bottle half full of a yellow liquid. Needless to say I was not pleased.


We've all had to relieve oursleves in a bottle during a long flight at some point, but DUMP OUT YOUR PISS BOTTLE WHEN YOU LAND!
 
Well, some stations they'll remove the bag from the cockpit, other stations they won't.

It chafes my hide to find half-empty water bottles, unfinished beverages and a full trash bag when I enter the cockpit because some people think mommy is going to come clean up after them.

Personally, when I'm done with an airplane, I make sure everything is dumped out, thrown into the bag and placed in the forward galley. I'm sure it might drive some of the "You're not a janitor" types from time to time, but I do it as a professional courtesy to the next crew.

I haaaaaaaaaate hate hate trashed cockpits. You would't treat your Bugatti like that, why in the world do pilots treat a $40 million dollar jet only a few years old any different?

New or old jet, it's our work station. Dried soda spray around the cockpit, water bottles, trash strewn about.

Also, like you said, so much easier to keep the "cleaners" out.
 
I get that this might be a joke but making fun of unions for protecting people's jobs and affording them a wage that keeps food on the table is not cool. Especially since this site embodies the whole idea of community and help one another. How many union jobs that you know of personally allow 3 hour lunch breaks? I get that this might be an inside joke but to the rest of us who work hard each and everyday to make this an affordable career it's a low blow. When a family member of mine worked for Pan Am back in the day if you tried to do anything outside of your job description you were going to be written up and disciplined.

Also you have no idea how many times, I, along with @Seggy @Cruise @SmitteyB @CAPIP1998 as well as others have dealt with management types who would argue against workers comp for moving bags or trash for that matter.
Did you wear your hat while you typed this ?
 
Did you wear your hat while you typed this ?

Nah, it's nothing. Just chalked up to the limitations of the written word on text. Mood or angle may not always be apparent from what's written. It's all good. No issue here.

Just poking fun at stereotypes all around the spectrum, including myself even in some posts. Keeps the mood light. :)
 
Why should furloughs be stapled?

Bloch gave Mesaba furloughs slotting as if they were on property prior to the purchase. I think it is 100% fair.

@jynxyjoe ... Is that correct re XJ furloughs?
I believe he only furloughs not treated as a staple were ones employed by pinnacle at the time as an agreement between the two union groups. Management had to sign off but that was all. I'm going purely off memory here, but pinnacle management wanted those pilots flying as soon as possible onthe 9E side due to their staffing issues. Mesaba had a chance to help our furloughs (who weren't at compass already) and management thought for sure they could shuck and jive them through an expedited course and the FAA wouldn't object. @kellwolf mentioned once that had failed I think.
 
I once swapped airplanes with another pilot, and I found a water bottle half full of a yellow liquid. Needless to say I was not pleased.


We've all had to relieve oursleves in a bottle during a long flight at some point, but DUMP OUT YOUR PISS BOTTLE WHEN YOU LAND!
Nothing makes me happier than getting to the plane first thing in the morning and finding it full of manifests, bugs all over the window, big soot streak down the side, flat spots on the tires, etc....
 
I think a bottle of piss is still better than a cup filled with dip spit. Every pilot who leaves a cup of that crap behind should be held down and forced to drink someone else's.
Common problem now that you're flying with the cowboy boot and 10-gallon-hat crowd?
 
Nothing makes me happier than getting to the plane first thing in the morning and finding it full of manifests, bugs all over the window, big soot streak down the side, flat spots on the tires, etc....
I don't mind A (as in one, singular, solitary) empty coke bottle floating around the cockpit ect. I'm not a neat freak by any standard, and these were freighters that had seen many better days.

But, when I find your dirty underwear and rotten lunch that must have been from LAST WEEK, I get a little upset.
 
@Derg heading in to work today, so I'll look up the reference later, but I do believe there is something in the FOM about policing up the cockpit, not to mention all those memos about placing the trash in the forward galley and not in the jetway. It is a requirement of the job, just like wearing the hat. Tell them that next time.

I do so want to be there when the first south crew members start flying on the 747.
 
@Derg heading in to work today, so I'll look up the reference later, but I do believe there is something in the FOM about policing up the cockpit, not to mention all those memos about placing the trash in the forward galley and not in the jetway. It is a requirement of the job, just like wearing the hat. Tell them that next time.

I do so want to be there when the first south crew members start flying on the 747.

Strange that it had to be codified into the FOM.

Besides, when I got the lecture, I just rolled my eyes and did what I was going to do anyway.
 
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