UPS SUX

SpiraMirabilis said:
QoL and pay. I make only a little bit less than what most UPS Metro or 1900 pilots make flying the Van. I like it here. I'm not sure I'll put in 20 years flying the caravan like some of the fedex feeder guys, but for now my QOL is pretty good.
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Do you have a flowthrough to mainline FedEx?
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
You can't spell stupid without UPS!
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EXACTLY!

CzechAirman said:
Since UPS doesn't actually operate the feeder flights, that would mean that the feeder operator sux and not UPS.
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It's not the feeder companies its UPS. It amazes me how they make money. If you need anything from them I swear you have to call about 10 "supervisors" and they all tell you something different. But as long as you have your shiny yellow vest (NOT ORANGE!) and an abundance of orange cones, you're good.

Maurus said:
Swing and a miss.
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Bahahaha!
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
It isn't bad, per se, it is just not something most people would like to do for an extended period of time (years.) You have no job security because the second someone comes to Brown and offers to do your run for $1 cheaper you're going to lose it next month, dealing with the package car drivers is hit or miss but there have been times where I wanted to engage in some fisticuffs, "helping" to load your own plane sucks, dealing with the the rampers at the hub station is also hit or miss - DFW is real good, but there are other places where I would dread going to.

It isn't just one thing... It's all the little things together. Working for a FedEx feeder is like a vacation in comparison, the only downside I have is no multi-time.
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having flown for Yellow, Brown, and now Purple; this pretty much sums it up. I have plenty of multi, so that doesn't bother me, I like the turbine time (even if I only have 1) and I currently am making more than most metro and 1900 drivers and have a better schedule/QoL
 
skatergeek said:
EXACTLY!



It's not the feeder companies its UPS. It amazes me how they make money. If you need anything from them I swear you have to call about 10 "supervisors" and they all tell you something different. But as long as you have your shiny yellow vest (NOT ORANGE!) and an abundance of orange cones, you're good.



Bahahaha!
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Imagine what it must be like to actually fly for UPS.
 
You just kind of have to laugh and shake your head as to how the company is run and how they make so much money. If you don't get too wound up about things it's a pretty good gig. I'm glad I ended up there as opposed to about anything else I can think of. Boxes don't complain and the union does of good job of mitigating the boxheads.
 
Blip16 said:
having flown for Yellow, Brown, and now Purple; this pretty much sums it up. I have plenty of multi, so that doesn't bother me, I like the turbine time (even if I only have 1) and I currently am making more than most metro and 1900 drivers and have a better schedule/QoL
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Where are you working at now? Wiggins?
 
I love how UPS pays 15 guys to load 2000 lbs into a Beech 99. At any given time, 10 out of the 15 man crew is standing around. Gotta love the efficiency of the operation.
 
DE727UPS said:
You just kind of have to laugh and shake your head as to how the company is run and how they make so much money. If you don't get too wound up about things it's a pretty good gig.
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Very true. There are a lot of good flying jobs out there, just some people tend to overreact to the situation and forget to see the whole picture.

fo4ever said:
Cleaning monitor now... Thank you very much.

Wiping the "prestige".... Off my shirt.
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You're welcome!
 
SIUav8er said:
I love how UPS pays 15 guys to load 2000 lbs into a Beech 99. At any given time, 10 out of the 15 man crew is standing around. Gotta love the efficiency of the operation.
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Not trying to derail the thread but I fly between a union shop and non-union shop. The difference is amazing. I'm consistently leaving early out of the non-union shop and late out of the union shop. They certainly don't help their case for blue collar unions by following just about every stereotype in the book.
 
Those 10 guys aren't just standing around, either. Five of them are checking the cones and the other five are the vest police. The other day I tried to sneak across the ONT ramp without my vest (was with my F/O and he had one on). I didn't get one row and I get intercepted by the vest police driving a tug. He was actually pretty nice and gave me a ride on his tug over to ops. The F/O thought it was hilarious.
 
Let me guess. He honked at you about 500 times before talking to you?

I have seriously never heard so many horns going off in on place before. I understand the need for safety but isn't there a point where you will just start to ignore them when 98% of the time they don't involve you?
 
CzechAirman said:
The prestige for one. Jet time for another.
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