United 93 - Accident Investigation

hambone said:
Yep, that's right, because I was referring to the fact that I listen to foreign news as well. No, I was more referring to the fact that I'm in a part of the world that never, ever has anything good said about it on American news. Never. It makes me start to question every other shred of news story and government agenda, and what spin is being placed to make me think the way they want me to think. I get facts to back it up everyday, because I'm not inside reading online news or watching it. I'm outside talking to people. Living in and learning the culture. I get treated pretty damn well here as an American. Totally debunks anyone who says "They hate us here." I meet countless people who have lived/studied/traveled and overall enjoyed the U.S.

What were you doing in Bahrain btw?
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Probably military
 
This thread is awesome. I'm getting fat off extra butter popcorn right now.


I think one thing that stands out to so called conspiracy theorists is building # 7. The thing fell down demo-style and had hardly been damaged. Classic crack in one of the center columns and presto gravity free fall speed to the ground in a nice pile of rubble. If you watch videos of the towers collapsing, they fall at free fall gravity speed. How does a building fall on itself into a pile of rubble when they were damaged at the top. Another thing I find interesting is how some human bone fragments were found on surrounding roof tops hundreds of feet away. I have also seen some theorists saying that some of the so called hijackers are still alive living on the other side of the world. If that's true that would put a so called hole in the official story.

One fact some people are unaware of is: George W. Bush's brother ran the security company that secured and gaurded the WTC. A couple weeks before the so called attacks the bomb sniffing dogs were removed. Now that's strange. Another strange thing are the explosions reported by custodial workers in the basement. However, their testimony wasn't permitted at the 9/11 commission hearings.......


OH well, I guess I'll just plug my ears and sing lalalalallalalalalalalalalallalaa.... while sticking my head furthur in the sand.

Someone pass the KOOL-AID

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flyingbum said:
This thread is awesome. I'm getting fat off extra butter popcorn right now.


I think one thing that stands out to so called conspiracy theorists is building # 7. The thing fell down demo-style and had hardly been damaged. Classic crack in one of the center columns and presto gravity free fall speed to the ground in a nice pile of rubble. If you watch videos of the towers collapsing, they fall at free fall gravity speed. How does a building fall on itself into a pile of rubble when they were damaged at the top. Another thing I find interesting is how some human bone fragments were found on surrounding roof tops hundreds of feet away. I have also seen some theorists saying that some of the so called hijackers are still alive living on the other side of the world. If that's true that would put a so called hole in the official story.

One fact some people are unaware of is: George W. Bush's brother ran the security company that secured and gaurded the WTC. A couple weeks before the so called attacks the bomb sniffing dogs were removed. Now that's strange. Another strange thing are the explosions reported by custodial workers in the basement. However, their testimony wasn't permitted at the 9/11 commission hearings.......


OH well, I guess I'll just plug my ears and sing lalalalallalalalalalalalalallalaa.... while sticking my head furthur in the sand.
Someone pass the KOOL-AID

:popcorn:
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I really dont know what to say about this. I guess Ill agree that you should keep your head buried in the sand. Perhaps you might want to share your "so called" theories with the "so called" truthers at those "so called" 9/11 truth movement website forums.
 
flyingbum said:
I have also seen some theorists saying that some of the so called hijackers are still alive living on the other side of the world. If that's true that would put a so called hole in the official story.
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This is an argument? If I say it was a alien plot to cause chaos on earth, and that turned out to be true, that would put a so called hole in the official story as well.
 
flyingbum said:
Another thing I find interesting is how some human bone fragments were found on surrounding roof tops hundreds of feet away.
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By interesting do you mean not possible given the wind and turbulence created by the towers falling?
 
SeanD said:
Seriously. What holes? Explain in great detail to me and the rest of us. I am so sick of hearing that phrase from the conspiracy theory circus. If you dont have that smoking hot evidence of a conspiracy then with all due respect, shut the hell up. For those of us that may have lost someone during the attacks and the war that followed the idea that our own government was somehow involved is an insult and disrespectful. To add to the passport debunker. If a dozen or so safety information cards managed to make it through the attack unscathed I'm pretty damn sure a passport could.
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:rotfl:That is too funny! You are the first person I've heard of that actually believes that the passport could have been on the plane that exploded into a massive fireball inside the tower which later fell and somehow landed two blocks away on the street in good condition. Oh and I'm glad you brought up the people that have lost somebody in the attacks because they are the ones who felt violated by the lack of answered questions and an investigated that started over a year late and had a total budget of about 1/3 of that spent on finding out who was bobing on Clinton's knob. I never said our governemnt was involved, all I said was that the official report is subpar and that group of Jersey 911 widows did a better job investigating (without drawing wacky conspiracy conclusions) than the actual commission.
 
Jet said:
:rotfl:That is too funny! You are the first person I've heard of that actually believes that the passport could have been on the plane that exploded into a massive fireball inside the tower which later fell and somehow landed two blocks away on the street in good condition. Oh and I'm glad you brought up the people that have lost somebody in the attacks because they are the ones who felt violated by the lack of answered questions and an investigated that started over a year late and had a total budget of about 1/3 of that spent on finding out who was bobing on Clinton's knob. I never said our governemnt was involved, all I said was that the official report is subpar and that group of Jersey 911 widows did a better job investigating (without drawing wacky conspiracy conclusions) than the actual commission.
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So because you have a "feeling" that the government report is wrong, you feel you can trample on the graves of 3000+ people? Get off your high horse. Just because you have a freedom of speech doesn't meant you should exercise it.
 
BeRich said:
This is an argument? If I say it was a alien plot to cause chaos on earth, and that turned out to be true, that would put a so called hole in the official story as well.
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I'm really not know to be a grammar nazi but you missed the key word. IF

Does that make sense? My first paragraph was what others are talking about. The short second was just a couple facts. Sheesh....
 
Blackhawk said:
According to the Supreme Court for the purposes of some anti-discrimination laws, yes. But still, most Jews would probably say no. So we'll go with anti-semitism.
Again, you are talking about at least 100's of people at least over two administrations. Sorry, don't see the government getting that many people to a) Do it. b) keep it under wraps over two administrations for the last 10 years. Not one person has come forward and said, "I was involved." I've been in the military. I worked with the CIA and know those people. Would some of them water board a suspect? Probably. Would they commit mass murder of their fellow country men? Are you on crack??
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Judaism is a religion, you cannot be discriminated against for your religion.


Anyway, why would hundreds of people need to be involved? I said before, one guy could do it all. He could have talked to bin Laden and set that in motion, get the paperwork (passports, visas, etc), and could have placed the explosives himself (if you think that). No one else would have to know. It could have been sanctioned by the pres, CIA director, NSA, anyone. No way would it need to involve hundreds of people over two administrations. Why would anything ever transfer over to Obama anyway?
 
SeanD said:
I really dont know what to say about this. I guess Ill agree that you should keep your head buried in the sand. Perhaps you might want to share your "so called" theories with the "so called" truthers at those "so called" 9/11 truth movement website forums.
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Again I don't like being the grammar nazi here but didn't I start by saying something like.... This is what they and or other conspiracy theorists are saying. Can't I paraphrase others and stay away from being outcast??? WTF???
 
flyingbum said:
Again I don't like being the grammar nazi here but didn't I start by saying something like.... This is what they and or other conspiracy theorists are saying. Can't I paraphrase others and stay away from being outcast??? WTF???
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Why do you keep saying you don't like being a grammar Nazi? You haven't corrected anyone's grammar. Drinking a bit this evening?

And if you paraphrase others to make your point, then it stands to reason you agree with them, so yes, it is then fair to lump your in with the lunacy you parrot.
 
flyingbum said:
I'm really not know to be a grammar nazi but you missed the key word. IF

Does that make sense? My first paragraph was what others are talking about. The short second was just a couple facts. Sheesh....
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Ok....IF it's true that it was an alien conspiracy, the official report would quite clearly be extremely flawed.

:concern:
 
darrenf said:
Why do you keep saying you don't like being a grammar Nazi? You haven't corrected anyone's grammar. Drinking a bit this evening?

And if you paraphrase others to make your point, then it stands to reason you agree with them, so yes, it is then fair to lump your in with the lunacy you parrot.
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I honestly think that you are out of bounds here. I repeat or paraphrase what someone else says and I'm guilty of it also? Did I get that right? So in the "stupidest CFI" thread, according to you everyone is guilty of the stupid stories for sharing what they heard or experienced through watching, listening, experiencing etc etc... That is 100% nonsense and you know it. I expect more of you as a person.
 
flyingbum said:
I honestly think that you are out of bounds here. I repeat or paraphrase what someone else says and I'm guilty of it also? Did I get that right? So in the "stupidest CFI" thread, according to you everyone is guilty of the stupid stories for sharing what they heard or experienced through watching, listening, experiencing etc etc... That is 100% nonsense and you know it. I expect more of you as a person.
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I think your problem is not Grammar, it's comprehension. I said if you repeat what they say TO MAKE YOUR POINT, then it is reasonable to assume you think as they do, and in this case lump you in with them. As far as expecting more from me, you don't know me, so I don't know how you could expect anything. And, even if you did, I am prepared to disappoint you, it won't bother me.
 
BeRich said:
Ok....IF it's true that it was an alien conspiracy, the official report would quite clearly be extremely flawed.

:concern:
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Sure, I guess you could say that. I don't recall mentioning any aliens though. I guess you found it convienent to pull that rabbit out of your hat, since I'm guilty of paraphrasing and repeating what others have said. Heck, while I'm at it according to someone else's logic nearby, you believe in aliens. That makes you a bonafied loon.

Interesting to see logic thrown out by an intellegent person just for the sake of arguement.


P.S. I find it ironic that the smiley face you put up was "concern", How did you get there? Was it convienent?

:concern:
 
darrenf said:
I think your problem is not Grammar, it's comprehension. I said if you repeat what they say TO MAKE YOUR POINT, then it is reasonable to assume you think as they do, and in this case lump you in with them. As far as expecting more from me, you don't know me, so I don't know how you could expect anything. And, even if you did, I am prepared to disappoint you, it won't bother me.
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What? Seriously? Just stop right there. It's gotten pathetic at this point. Go have a coke and a smile or something.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
So because you have a "feeling" that the government report is wrong, you feel you can trample on the graves of 3000+ people? Get off your high horse. Just because you have a freedom of speech doesn't meant you should exercise it.
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It's more like the other way around, 3000+ people deserve to have a well funded investigation that didn't start a year late. By the way, it's closer to 5000 people now after all the clean up related deaths. I'm willing to bet that you haven't read the full report, or should I say lack of report or your wouldn't disrespect the dead by saying the report was adequate and nothing more is deserved. Go tell all the widows to go f themselves and all their unanswered questions, because that is basically your attitude.
 
flyingbum said:
What? Seriously? Just stop right there. It's gotten pathetic at this point. Go have a coke and a smile or something.
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Jet said:
It's more like the other way around, 3000+ people deserve to have a well funded investigation that didn't start a year late. By the way, it's closer to 5000 people now after all the clean up related deaths. I'm willing to bet that you haven't read the full report, or should I say lack of report or your wouldn't disrespect the dead by saying the report was adequate and nothing more is deserved. Go tell all the widows to go f themselves and all their unanswered questions, because that is basically your attitude.
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I'm gonna choose to believe you 2 don't have anything better to do, and are just out trolling. The alternative is truly frightening.

Hope you had a good laugh. I'm out. Here is a video to ponder...

[video=youtube;kcrF346sS_I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I[/video]
 
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