$ully cashing in very quickly

I But there is more to this than just 'doing his job'. Do you know the man? Have you talked to him? Worked with him and seen his leadership skills? I know Sully and this is not out of character for him. Always a good stick. Good decision making skills. This appears to be just another notch on Sully's resume', another consistency of excellence.

OK one of my best friends met sully recently in the crew room at DCA (picture to prove it). So this is second hand, but from a totally reliable source.

Sully was softspoken, humble and friendly. He told me buddy this: "Tell everyone you speak to about this incident this: it was a total team effort."

He appears to be the real deal, and so far I havent heard alot of ME ME coming from him. I think the OP will be the minority opinion amongst pilots.
 
Did Sully approach the publisher? Or did they approach them. From what I know of the man, it seems likely that the publisher came to him. If the other way around, then I might agree with the OP's opinion.

Athlete's and actors make millions because people collectively pay hundeds of millions to see them play or recite lines. CEO's make millions because that is what their skillset can garner in the marketplace.

Whatever reward Sully is getting is not because of public demand for his his unique skills, but rather because circumstances put his skills on display, and we live in a society that is starved of real heroes. He has done nothing that I wouldn't expect anyother pilot with his experience level to do. But as I said before, if someone is willing to pay him 3 million for whatever, good on him!

I find it interesting that you assume criminal or ethical culpability when a "CEO runs a company and people's careers into the ground." Tell me, do you make a similar assumption when a pilot does the same with his airplane?

When did incompetence or failure become a criminal action, and/or morally void?
I understand the concept of what markets can garner, as per pay for particular people; actors, athletes, CEOs, etc. My point, simply, was I, personally, would rather see people like Sully (and countless people out there, like him) get their chance at that kind of money, to set their families future up, than these people who regularly make enough, to make $3M look like a drop in the bucket. I just think it is crazy that people call Sully egotistical, or criticize him, for accepting a book deal, while countless others, who have done far less than save 154 other lives, regularly are compensated, far more than that amount ... regardless of markets, and what they can garner. I couldn't care less about markets, I'm just glad to see an everyday, working American, who did a great thing (even if just doing his job) get a little piece of the pie. I wish more could get a little piece.

As per the CEO comment. I wasn't referring to all CEOs, but the difference between a CEO making a mistake, and his company going under, and his employees losing their jobs, retirements, and homes, is that the CEO often receives a golden parachute, and walks away. The pilot, unfortunately, isn't so lucky, when he crashes an airplane. There is a consequence to that pilot's mistake, but there doesn't seem to be any consequence to these CEOs, other than millions of dollars in their bank account. I didn't say making a mistake was criminal.
 
OK one of my best friends met sully recently in the crew room at DCA (picture to prove it). So this is second hand, but from a totally reliable source.

Sully was softspoken, humble and friendly. He told me buddy this: "Tell everyone you speak to about this incident this: it was a total team effort."

He appears to be the real deal, and so far I havent heard alot of ME ME coming from him. I think the OP will be the minority opinion amongst pilots.

I've worked w/ Sully a bit when the 'bus was coming on property and also ran into him a number of times in the crew room and training dept. He was then as he appears to be now.. the real deal. No hubris. Quick to laugh and not some lone star hero. I enjoyed talking with him.

The negative attitude toward Sully is not new. Unless one affects some false humility, they are assumed to be arrogant and what ever success they achieve unwarranted. That is what is sad about the country... many seem to dislike those who succeed.
 
Let me get this straight; athletes are making millions, for playing a game, Hollywood is making millions to memorize, and repeat some lines in front of a camera, and corporate CEOs are making millions, while they run companies, and people's careers, into the ground, yet a man who saves 155 lives, including his own, doing his job, is somehow egotistical because he is offered a $3M book deal, and goes on TV, with his crew, to tell the story? You have got to be kidding me!

You know, you're right. I mean, if we play by AIG rules, Sully should have crashed the plane into downtown New York, been the only survivor, and then received a huge payout.

God forbid that someone should do his job well and reap the financial rewards.

We can't have that. You gotta screw it up big time and take down your whole company in order to get a big bonus.
 
I think him getting all of this money is perfectly ok as long as he does a couple things. Firstly, he has a responsibility now because of his status to increase awareness of the atrocities that airlines have done to pilot compensation. Look at how hard the FO's are getting it at the regionals. It's just sickening to me. Second, along with increasing awareness about pilot hardships, he should organize actions to fix these problems. Sully seems like a smart guy, and I couldn't think of a better guy to try and figure it out. But once its all done and presented, I think we can all expect the politicians to take a butchers knife to his proposal to make it satisfy special interests.

All I'm really saying is that this would be the right thing for him to do now that he has this hero status. People will only listen to those they respect, and I don't know why anyone would not respect him. Pay cuts have to stop, and be reversed at least halfway.
 
There is something quite seedy about Sully and his media crave. I think his portrait in the garden
was a really big clue into Chesney's ego issues. Let's see at 3 million for this deal that means Sully
is going to make 1 million per minute he spent in the air that day. ;)
I'm hoping Sully retires. Don't think his head will fit into any cockpit at this point.
Humility my man Sully!! Humility!!

http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/200...lands-3-million-book-deal-poems-in-the-works/

Let me just interlace the initial post here with my comment. I can see where snoopy finds this unethical. Cashing in on an accident does seem a little seedy, but who would turn it down? However, i think Sully has stumbled upon a position where he can really influence things to swing in our favor. And writing books along with getting huge rewards can really say something about the scale of what he has done. And when people see that they will realize just how important what he did is. And with that, Sully should start making the trouble known and organize the battle against it. if he does that, it effectively destroys any hint of seediness, because it will show that he used his fame for good, not just self gratification.
 
Part of this too is the media doesn't want to leave it alone.

Now we're at the point where the haters are out and want nothing more than to bring down a good man. Like Orange Anchor said, it's pretty sad. I think people would rather see someone fail just they can feel better about their lives.

People love a hero, but they love a fallen hero more, it makes them feel better about their pathetic lives.
 
Do I think Sully is a hero? Nope. I don't.

He'll even tell you he isn't.

What I do think Sully is, is a competent, well trained, and professional airline Capt; who took an extremely unusual and rare emergency, and handled it outstandingly well, along with his crew.

If he can use that to get out a good, necessary message about the industry; more power to him.

I'm afraid that the woes of the airlines, as we see them, aren't cared for by he general public, though.
 
Do I think Sully is a hero? Nope. I don't.

He'll even tell you he isn't.

What I do think Sully is, is a competent, well trained, and professional airline Capt; who took an extremely unusual and rare emergency, and handled it outstandingly well, along with his crew.

If he can use that to get out a good, necessary message about the industry; more power to him.

I'm afraid that the woes of the airlines, as we see them, aren't cared for by he general public, though.
:yeahthat:
 
Has either Sully or Jeff Skiles returned to active flying duty yet, does anybody know? I'm sure after anything like this they get as much time off as they want, but have they returned to flying the line?

Also.. earlier someone misspelled Sully's real name, which is Chesley..
 
The original post is a joke. Sully has done more for to get the word out about the state of the profession than any other pilot or organization thus far. Hell, ALPA takes from everyone's paychecks and they have done a worse job than him getting the word out about the decay of the profession. He deserves everything he gets, how many hero's(although he wouldn't use that term to describe themselves) would go in front of the government and spill their guts out when they don't have to? And until Snoopy gets up and tries to improve life for his fellow aviators like Sully has your post are a waste time...
 
You know, you're right. I mean, if we play by AIG rules, Sully should have crashed the plane into downtown New York, been the only survivor, and then received a huge payout.

God forbid that someone should do his job well and reap the financial rewards.

We can't have that. You gotta screw it up big time and take down your whole company in order to get a big bonus.

Slightly off topic, but CNBC was saying that they shouldn't abrogate contracts by not giving out the bonuses. The same network that said that Delta needs to "1113" us in bankruptcy court so they could have the freedom to....abrogate our contract.

Some animals are more equal than other animals.
 
I think him getting all of this money is perfectly ok as long as he does a couple things. Firstly, he has a responsibility now because of his status to increase awareness of the atrocities that airlines have done to pilot compensation. Look at how hard the FO's are getting it at the regionals. It's just sickening to me. Second, along with increasing awareness about pilot hardships, he should organize actions to fix these problems. Sully seems like a smart guy, and I couldn't think of a better guy to try and figure it out. But once its all done and presented, I think we can all expect the politicians to take a butchers knife to his proposal to make it satisfy special interests.

All I'm really saying is that this would be the right thing for him to do now that he has this hero status. People will only listen to those they respect, and I don't know why anyone would not respect him. Pay cuts have to stop, and be reversed at least halfway.

I think you need to look into it more... He has done all of the above.
 
Snoopy2 is not a fellow aviator, check his profile.......

I'll tell you who I think is a selfish jerk..that Sam Adams guy... all those little people work their butts off making that amber delight and do they get any recognition? No. Who gets his name on the bottle? Mr. Big Ego...that's who!
 
Slightly off topic, but CNBC was saying that they shouldn't abrogate contracts by not giving out the bonuses. The same network that said that Delta needs to "1113" us in bankruptcy court so they could have the freedom to....abrogate our contract.

Some animals are more equal than other animals.

Bingo Taylor - nice Animal Farm reference. Very true.
 
Slightly off topic, but CNBC was saying that they shouldn't abrogate contracts by not giving out the bonuses. The same network that said that Delta needs to "1113" us in bankruptcy court so they could have the freedom to....abrogate our contract.

Some animals are more equal than other animals.

Just makes me want to bleat out a few bars of "Beasts of England"
 
Slightly off topic, but CNBC was saying that they shouldn't abrogate contracts by not giving out the bonuses. The same network that said that Delta needs to "1113" us in bankruptcy court so they could have the freedom to....abrogate our contract.

Some animals are more equal than other animals.

But Doug, don't you understand, they have to retain their "best people". If I could find that Daily Show clip I would post it, it was hilarious.
 
Has either Sully or Jeff Skiles returned to active flying duty yet, does anybody know? I'm sure after anything like this they get as much time off as they want, but have they returned to flying the line?

Also.. earlier someone misspelled Sully's real name, which is Chesley..

Dude, totally off topic but is that Wakatipu in your avatar?
 
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