UGH..19%? why not just take 20 and call it a day?!
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aloft
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the pilots just really don't have much of a choice...leave the company & your starting at the very bottom in reserve again - ugh!!
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A single, nationwide ALPA seniority list would alleviate this problem, and it would force the carriers to attract and retain quality people. They know they don't have to give a thought to retention now because the seniority system has pilots by the balls. You give pilots an opportunity to move laterally without taking a seniority hit, and all of the sudden companies will start to give a crap about their pilots.
the pilots just really don't have much of a choice...leave the company & your starting at the very bottom in reserve again - ugh!!
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A single, nationwide ALPA seniority list would alleviate this problem, and it would force the carriers to attract and retain quality people. They know they don't have to give a thought to retention now because the seniority system has pilots by the balls. You give pilots an opportunity to move laterally without taking a seniority hit, and all of the sudden companies will start to give a crap about their pilots.
Tim
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Well I can tell you you couldnt do my job day and day out it sounds like. You probably work 8-5 mon-fri and home on holidays. The reality is that piss poor management at DL goes back many many years long before me. What you dont understand though is Delta has always been a reactive company vs a proactive and now it has finally caught up to them. Long term planning at DL doesnt exist and never has. If it had the company would have been prepared for high oil prices. We are not immune to the world market as they have thought.
What you have to understand also is that in my job decisions are made by people who have never done the job. Some dont even know how to load an -88, one of the most pain in ass to load, but they want to right the rules. Sure they ask our expert opinion. It then is filed with the rest of ideas that will work in the can. As I said earlier until you have worn the steel toes and hot rain gear you dont have anything to say about what I do or how I do it. But thanks for putting your 2 cents in anyway.
What you have to understand also is that in my job decisions are made by people who have never done the job. Some dont even know how to load an -88, one of the most pain in ass to load, but they want to right the rules. Sure they ask our expert opinion. It then is filed with the rest of ideas that will work in the can. As I said earlier until you have worn the steel toes and hot rain gear you dont have anything to say about what I do or how I do it. But thanks for putting your 2 cents in anyway.
mpenguin1
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the pilots just really don't have much of a choice...leave the company & your starting at the very bottom in reserve again - ugh!!
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A single, nationwide ALPA seniority list would alleviate this problem, and it would force the carriers to attract and retain quality people. They know they don't have to give a thought to retention now because the seniority system has pilots by the balls. You give pilots an opportunity to move laterally without taking a seniority hit, and all of the sudden companies will start to give a crap about their pilots.
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A single, nationwide ALPA seniority list would only work out, if every pilot at every airline belonged to ALPA. Another thing is that pilots at different airlines have different salary brackets...
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the pilots just really don't have much of a choice...leave the company & your starting at the very bottom in reserve again - ugh!!
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A single, nationwide ALPA seniority list would alleviate this problem, and it would force the carriers to attract and retain quality people. They know they don't have to give a thought to retention now because the seniority system has pilots by the balls. You give pilots an opportunity to move laterally without taking a seniority hit, and all of the sudden companies will start to give a crap about their pilots.
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A single, nationwide ALPA seniority list would only work out, if every pilot at every airline belonged to ALPA. Another thing is that pilots at different airlines have different salary brackets...
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Eta71,
Nah, I was just a bit annoyed by scoobs and his statement about Doug just being lucky to still have a job.
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Ah, a return to Fuedalism! All hail to the great lord that provides me protection from the hoardes running amok outside the city walls as long as I perform my duty as a serf.
Eta71,
Nah, I was just a bit annoyed by scoobs and his statement about Doug just being lucky to still have a job.
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Ah, a return to Fuedalism! All hail to the great lord that provides me protection from the hoardes running amok outside the city walls as long as I perform my duty as a serf.
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Ah, a return to Fuedalism! All hail to the great lord that provides me protection from the hoardes running amok outside the city walls as long as I perform my duty as a serf.
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Woot! Proud to be a serf!
Aren't serfs those little blue creatures with white hats that ran around singing............ Oh, no wait those were Smurfs ! Nevermind.
Ah, a return to Fuedalism! All hail to the great lord that provides me protection from the hoardes running amok outside the city walls as long as I perform my duty as a serf.
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Woot! Proud to be a serf!
Aren't serfs those little blue creatures with white hats that ran around singing............ Oh, no wait those were Smurfs ! Nevermind.