Trevor Jacob v2.0

You have a history of crediting women’s success to their looks or “sleeping their way to the top”.

It’s a massively childish and douchey thing to say.

My relative busted her ass and didn’t take a ton of money from her parents to support two careers.

“History”


Translation: Once, Kamala Harris (which was a fact btw, by her own admission).

An outright false accusation by you. Thanks for playing your typical troll game of arguing to argue.
 
Assuming it with no knowledge of the situation whatsoever is incredibly on brand for both of you two man children.

And I never said looks don’t frequently play a role…yet another instance of you putting words in people’s mouth, you disingenuous tool.




Nah. If someone is a popular influencer online, male or female, you can bet they are doing okay in the looks department. It’s advertisement. Of course looks matter.
 
“History”


Translation: Once, Kamala Harris (which was a fact btw, by her own admission).


Thanks for playing your typical troll game of arguing to argue.

Nah, you’ve said it about a number of situations.

But I think I’ll take a page from your book and not back that up with anything.

You know what though? If you’re going to say my cousin is successful because of her looks, I’ll just reiterate that your success is due to your rich dad.
 
Nah. If someone is a popular influencer online, male or female, you can bet they are doing okay in the looks department. It’s advertisement. Of course looks matter.

Have you seen the recent ads that Delta's been running on social media with the fat woman with a skin condition walking on the beach in a two piece swimsuit? Delta once again tried to get woke, and the comment section was a bloodbath. :bounce:
 
Nah, you’ve said it about a number of situations.

But I think I’ll take a page from your book and not back that up with anything.

You know what though? If you’re going to say my cousin is successful because of her looks, I’ll just reiterate that your success is due to your rich dad.


No. I don’t recall saying anyone slept to the top except for Kamala Harris. So nice try. And you are the one calling slum a disingenuous fool? What a joke.


You wanna say my success is due to my rich dad? Sure. And I hope to do the same for my kids.

I mean, there’s also a thing about having to study hard, getting a degree, working a job. If I told you how many rich kids I grew up with who are just sitting around and hardly doing anything, and a compete 180 from their rich parents, it would probably blow your head.

But sure - I’m okay with that. I’m where I am because dad was rich. And he was a present parent, as was my mother. Oh the horror!


News flash : Zmiller discovers dads who provide for and love their family can lead to successful outcomes for kids.

More breaking news at 10, with zmiller exclusively on DailyMail.com
 
Have you seen the recent ads that Delta's been running on social media with the fat woman with a skin condition walking on the beach in a two piece swimsuit? Delta once again tried to get woke, and the comment section was a bloodbath. :bounce:

Has the woke crowd seen this yet?




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No. I don’t recall saying anyone slept to the top except for Kamala Harris. So nice try. And you are the one calling slum a disingenuous fool? What a joke.


You wanna say my success is due to my rich dad? Sure. And I hope to do the same for my kids.

I mean, there’s also a thing about having to study hard, getting a degree, working a job. If I told you how many rich kids I grew up with who are just sitting around and hardly doing anything, and a compete 180 from their rich parents, it would probably blow your head.

But sure - I’m okay with that. I’m where I am because dad was rich. And he was a present parent, as was my mother. Oh the horror!


News flash : Zmiller discovers dads who provide for and love their family can lead to successful outcomes for kids.

More breaking news at 10, with zmiller exclusively on DailyMail.com

"Check your privilege, bro!" :bounce:
 
No. I don’t recall saying anyone slept to the top except for Kamala Harris. So nice try. And you are the one calling slum a disingenuous fool? What a joke.


You wanna say my success is due to my rich dad? Sure. And I hope to do the same for my kids.

I mean, there’s also a thing about having to study hard, getting a degree, working a job. If I told you how many rich kids I grew up with who are just sitting around and hardly doing anything, and a compete 180 from their rich parents, it would probably blow your head.

But sure - I’m okay with that. I’m where I am because dad was rich. And he was a present parent, as was my mother. Oh the horror!


News flash : Zmiller discovers dads who provide for and love their family can lead to successful outcomes for kids.

More breaking news at 10, with zmiller exclusively on DailyMail.com

Ok.

Let me make something clear: I really don’t like your implication that my cousin’s success is due to her looks with having absolutely no knowledge of who she is or what she’s like.

I don’t doubt that the female influencers you see are generally of a certain type. But it’s absurd to extrapolate the sample you see to an individual situation of which you have no knowledge.
 
Aviation companies are not like fashion companies, cosmetics companies, etc. that these big influencers work with. David Clark isn't going to drop $100k for any "aviation influencer" to "unbox" their product. You are living in a dream world, my man.

Ah, yes they are. You would be surprised at the numbers being thrown around for endorsements. "Hi, I'm Rainier Luftwaffe and I only fly with Acme Aviation Products." coupled with a short video showing the "influencer" using the product during preflight or flight... it can net a few or several hundred thousand dollars to the influencer.
 
And here is the corporate flight attendant who made really big money from influencing in a niche market.


I have met corporate flight attendants that absolutely idolize this woman. Like previous generations did looking up to Princess Diana, or Oprah. If the Flightess has any sort of premium subscription program, they all follow it and will pay any membership fee to see how she would plate a Snickers bar and what flatware to go with it.

She's doing alright without having to work as a cabin crew member for NJ, FJ or any corporate department.
 
Ok.

Let me make something clear: I really don’t like your implication that my cousin’s success is due to her looks with having absolutely no knowledge of who she is or what she’s like.

I don’t doubt that the female influencers you see are generally of a certain type. But it’s absurd to extrapolate the sample you see to an individual situation of which you have no knowledge.



Words matter. Let’s read again:


“Outgoing personality and an EXPERT skier. You see, she already has skill.”

Those are written as fact. Those are her skills, education, etc.



“Plus I’m gonna venture a guess she’s got good genes.”


This is a guess, it’s literally written that way. Most people in the ad business who are on the front face do tend to be good looking.

No where did I say “she got what she got because of only her looks.”


She’s obviously an expert, competent in her field, and does well teaching others. Good for her. If you’re gonna sell a product on TV/internet, looks matter too, and she probably does well there.


I don’t see anything wrong with that. It was a compliment all around for her.
 
Words matter. Let’s read again:


“Outgoing personality and an EXPERT skier. You see, she already has skill.”

Those are written as fact. Those are her skills, education, etc.



“Plus I’m gonna venture a guess she’s got good genes.”


This is a guess, it’s literally written that way. Most people in the ad business who are on the front face do tend to be good looking.

No where did I say “she got what she got because of only her looks.”


She’s obviously an expert, competent in her field, and does well teaching others. Good for her. If you’re gonna sell a product on TV/internet, looks matter too, and she probably does well there.


I don’t see anything wrong with that. It was a compliment all around for her.

Fair enough, but your implication in this thread is that social media doesn’t offer realistic viable long term opportunities.

I don’t disagree that making a decent living off of social media advertising/influencing etc is challenging, but saying “Zmillers cousing succeeded because she’s competent” seems odd…isn’t that why most people succeed? If being smart and competent allows you to be successful in the social media realm, why are we telling @ChasenSFO that he doesn’t have a chance?
 
I have met corporate flight attendants that absolutely idolize this woman. Like previous generations did looking up to Princess Diana, or Oprah. If the Flightess has any sort of premium subscription program, they all follow it and will pay any membership fee to see how she would plate a Snickers bar and what flatware to go with it.

She's doing alright without having to work as a cabin crew member for NJ, FJ or any corporate department.

She is fantastic! She takes so much pride in her craft and is amazing to work with. I knew she was going to blow up as an influencer and a blogger. Heck, she was just on one of those news shows the other day. She also just did a trip the other after being off for a bit while she was pregnant.

I believe Chasen will resonate with young people. He has that type of personality. Look at what Donovan Batiste is doing on IG. I can see Chasen doing something similar, but in his own way.
 
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If only you knew how often that virtue has hurt my career progression because of not being enough of a "team player" perhaps you'd understand why I sometimes seem a bit cantankerous. But these days things are pretty good, I'll try to ratchet back my obstinance If you attempt to not be so blatantly biased.
 
Fair enough, but your implication in this thread is that social media doesn’t offer realistic viable long term opportunities.

I don’t disagree that making a decent living off of social media advertising/influencing etc is challenging, but saying “Zmillers cousing succeeded because she’s competent” seems odd…isn’t that why most people succeed? If being smart and competent allows you to be successful in the social media realm, why are we telling @ChasenSFO that he doesn’t have a chance?

Because competence isn’t enough. There are millions of competent singers. But you aren’t gonna be a pop star just because you sing competently.
 
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