Mavmb
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I attended Pan Am and completed their entire program flawlessly. After finishing their program and going through their new instructor indoctrination, it took over 6 months to be called back to instruct. They could have cared less what I did that time - they already had my 60 grand. When you are at the academy, you are not treated like a customer. They do not address student's concerns. If you complain about anything, you will not be hired on as an instructor, so you can't complain. Just an example. There is no library. An academy who is self-proclaiming itself the "Harvard of aviation" has no library???
Are you kidding me????
And instructors getting multi-time???
I know instructors who have been there over a year who have not instructed for ten minutes in a Seminole. Others have been instructing in the twins for hundreds of hours. Not fair - too much politics.
And the ACE program was a 7,000 waste. I have nothing to show for it. Nothing in my logbook. I was great in that darn sim over a year ago. I new it like a pro. What good does that do me now. I need to instruct in a single for about a year to build my hours to be anywhere remotely near hireable. Good thing I paid 7 Grand for 30 non-logabble hours in a CRJ FTD. Its cockpit would look foreign to me now after over a year since the program. The academy requires you to do the ACE program if you want to instruct there. It is their way of getting a few extra "free" thousand from you. By free, I mean that now that they have the sim, its operating cost is closs to nill. Why don't they let us do the ACE after we have already instructed at the academy and built up our hours to be close to airline ready - as a final finishing touch to our skills.
Turnover is ridiculously high. Not because people can't hack it, but because people can't stand the BS. One month I was there, we lost over 20 students. In about a year there the amount of students who left was more unbelievable.
Ask admissions to answer you this. How many people who have gone through the entire program at FPR from start to finish have been hired by an airline? Ask for names. I know of none. Yes - a handful who started at other places and maybe only did a rating or two at Pan AM, but none that I know of who did our whole program. How many of FPRs instructors have been hired over the past 6 months? And how many hours did they have prior to being hired?
And finally, how many instructors, after having borrowed 80 grand, and successfully completing the program, are bagging groceries at Publix and watching their flying skills get rusty waiting to get hired as a CFI by Pan Scam.
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Just to give everyone an insider's look on the Phoenix area, every week Pan Am students and/or instructors come into our flight school at the scottsdale airport, looking for work, or looking to finish their ratings and somehow pay off their loans. The quote from above is a good sample of the complaints I hear from current Pan Amers every week.
I attended Pan Am and completed their entire program flawlessly. After finishing their program and going through their new instructor indoctrination, it took over 6 months to be called back to instruct. They could have cared less what I did that time - they already had my 60 grand. When you are at the academy, you are not treated like a customer. They do not address student's concerns. If you complain about anything, you will not be hired on as an instructor, so you can't complain. Just an example. There is no library. An academy who is self-proclaiming itself the "Harvard of aviation" has no library???
Are you kidding me????
And instructors getting multi-time???
I know instructors who have been there over a year who have not instructed for ten minutes in a Seminole. Others have been instructing in the twins for hundreds of hours. Not fair - too much politics.
And the ACE program was a 7,000 waste. I have nothing to show for it. Nothing in my logbook. I was great in that darn sim over a year ago. I new it like a pro. What good does that do me now. I need to instruct in a single for about a year to build my hours to be anywhere remotely near hireable. Good thing I paid 7 Grand for 30 non-logabble hours in a CRJ FTD. Its cockpit would look foreign to me now after over a year since the program. The academy requires you to do the ACE program if you want to instruct there. It is their way of getting a few extra "free" thousand from you. By free, I mean that now that they have the sim, its operating cost is closs to nill. Why don't they let us do the ACE after we have already instructed at the academy and built up our hours to be close to airline ready - as a final finishing touch to our skills.
Turnover is ridiculously high. Not because people can't hack it, but because people can't stand the BS. One month I was there, we lost over 20 students. In about a year there the amount of students who left was more unbelievable.
Ask admissions to answer you this. How many people who have gone through the entire program at FPR from start to finish have been hired by an airline? Ask for names. I know of none. Yes - a handful who started at other places and maybe only did a rating or two at Pan AM, but none that I know of who did our whole program. How many of FPRs instructors have been hired over the past 6 months? And how many hours did they have prior to being hired?
And finally, how many instructors, after having borrowed 80 grand, and successfully completing the program, are bagging groceries at Publix and watching their flying skills get rusty waiting to get hired as a CFI by Pan Scam.
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Just to give everyone an insider's look on the Phoenix area, every week Pan Am students and/or instructors come into our flight school at the scottsdale airport, looking for work, or looking to finish their ratings and somehow pay off their loans. The quote from above is a good sample of the complaints I hear from current Pan Amers every week.
