Apophis
Resident Iconoclast
I'm surprised you can't see how hypocritical these statements are. Management IS part of the airline, therefore the airline sucks. Seems pretty simple to me.
Sheesh.
"The truth about the luxury of Qatar Airways"
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I'm surprised you can't see how hypocritical these statements are. Management IS part of the airline, therefore the airline sucks. Seems pretty simple to me.
Sheesh.
ozone
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Qatar is near the bottom of the list when it comes to maintaining vigilance regarding human slavery (trafficking): http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2014/226649.htm
Notice that they are on the tier 2 watch list. According to the UN and other organizations, tier 2 watch list is basically the same as tier 3, politically, however, we just want to not piss them off. So, the story supplied seems to be right in line with a country/organization that philosophically has little problem with slavery.
What do you expect from a country that largely follows the Koran? link: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/015-slavery.htm
Notice that they are on the tier 2 watch list. According to the UN and other organizations, tier 2 watch list is basically the same as tier 3, politically, however, we just want to not piss them off. So, the story supplied seems to be right in line with a country/organization that philosophically has little problem with slavery.
What do you expect from a country that largely follows the Koran? link: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/015-slavery.htm
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Not that I'm unaware of the problems inherent in capitalism (or really, any economic system inhabited by innately broken, selfish human beings), but if you think that a government sponsored and enforced monopoly/slave trade is anything like the free market that libertarians such as @Boris Badenov or the good Dr. Paul espouse, you need to get the exhaust system in your 207 looked at.
Joshwa
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Of the ME big three, they are the one to avoid. Dubai I understand is just about liveable, Abu Dhabi is bearable, and Qatar makes Ras Tannurah in Saudi seem paradise.
The only guys I know who've gone to Qatar did so after their companies went bankrupt. Etihad and Emirates are both fairly popular for guys who don't get into the flag carriers but want to do long haul.
Not just Qatar, but Dubai and even Singapore are built on one form or other of racist indentured servitude. They don't care how many fatal accidents there are as the guys are just queuing up to come over to make some hard cash for their families.
The only guys I know who've gone to Qatar did so after their companies went bankrupt. Etihad and Emirates are both fairly popular for guys who don't get into the flag carriers but want to do long haul.
Not just Qatar, but Dubai and even Singapore are built on one form or other of racist indentured servitude. They don't care how many fatal accidents there are as the guys are just queuing up to come over to make some hard cash for their families.
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Hey, I'm an idealist socialist libertarian—I get it. The thing is, there's a fundamental flaw in the logic of free-market economic theory, and that's that if you want to maintain a free market, there need to be rules to maintain it that are rigorously, universally and absolutely enforced. The problem with truly "free" free markets is that they never remain free—invariably the system is compromised by one or more parties, and it inevitably leads to some form of oligarchy due to the fundamental flaws in basic human nature.
My issue is that "Free market" is held up in response to -everything- these days... outsourcing, offshoring, literally everything. And in the end, the "free market" adherents are proposing a very simplistic theory that certainly could work—given a spherical universe in a vacuum.
-Fox
"In a perfect world, men like me would not exist... but this is not a perfect world."
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Dutch Apple Pie is the yardstick of apple pies.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
I'd say it's more the fact that several outside players (umm... us!) have been funding the tyrant at levels much higher than anything the subjects can over come.
Either. Do you have any of that real good sarsaparilla?
Mark815
Well-Known Member
I think the issue is that many of these girls don't know what they're getting into at all. I flew with an FA who was nearing her last trip with our company a while back. She excitedly said she took a job with Emirates, but it was clear that she had really done no research when both I and the CA asked her about it.
-Have you been to Dubai?
"no"
-The middle east?
"nope"
-What's the housing situation like? Do you have to live in a company housing area?
"I dunno!"
-how's the cost of living there?
"I dunno!"
-Why did you choose to go then?
"Everyone says they're amazing!"
She said she's basically packing her bags and will see what it's like when she gets there.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I agree management sounds like it sucks, but I'm not sure I can write off that airline as "sucks" just because of management?
And I agree with the previous poster that al Bakar has a serious complex/issue. Napoleon complex. With him, everything is "my." My airline. My people. My planes. "Boeing doesn't know how to make aeroplanes." "Airbus doesn't know how to make aeroplanes."
Management comes and goes. Maybe a future CEO will better than this guy.
AM011309
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Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Ummmmm........
As a paying passenger, I judge the airline based on the service provided, comforts, entertainment, and friendliness of the crew. That is the metric I personally use. Management sucks at a lot of places, it doesn't mean that airline itself "sucks." But I guess your definition is different, so I suppose it's also a valid viewpoint.
pianokeys
MEL NO MUFFS
From what I've read on a Canadian message board about expat flying, Qatar is good and only good because of fast upgrades. One expat said "Use Qatar to get 1000 PIC and then get out."
For the customers it may be the best product for any passenger, and it may not suck. But for the employees it sounds like it sucks.
For the customers it may be the best product for any passenger, and it may not suck. But for the employees it sounds like it sucks.