The Great Jumpseat War of 2019

Cory Trevor said:
I haven't been at SkyWest for too long but this has to be as close as we've ever been unioninzing. First there's this whole debacle making line pilots fight their battles and threatening our certificates without any substantial reasoning. The organization of this whole crusade has been laughable but on par with how SAPA operates everything else. The FOM willl change, we will get commuter hotels, we will get employee parking passes. The funniest was about a month ago when one of the better communicators of the SAPA reps said he was disappointed with how slow the company has been to address QOL issues since we signed our TA. Uhhhh ya think? That's why people wanted it addressed at the same time as the TA because that was the only leverage we had.

Also the apathy appears to be at an all time low. I know voter turnout has always been horrible at this company but this just seems like a joke at this point. The current president won his election because the other guy just dropped out. I'm a region 4 pilot and I feel like we've had votes for reps at least once a month for the last half year. Every vote has had less and less participants and this last one that ended last night was won by the incumbent because not one single other pilot even tried to run.

I've signed up for the skywestalpa website but beyond that I don't really have a clue how the whole process works because I don't have any other social media but I hope something happens soon.
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You're running, right?
 
JordanD said:
If they'd scrap that ridiculous (and probably illegal) NDA good people WOULD run. The last really well intentioned person won and resigned her position because she wasn't willing to "sign away" a legal right. So in other words, people that actually WILL stand up for what's right aren't really allowed in.
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”All the hassles of being in a union, but none of the national benefits, NLRB recognition or legal resources”.

We have a group of people at my shop who want a SouthernJets Pilots ONLY union, but they’re generally people who are working their first private sector job that have never been at a non-union or student council-run airline before.
 
Derg said:
”All the hassles of being in a union, but none of the national benefits, NLRB recognition or legal resources”.

We have a group of people at my shop who want a SouthernJets Pilots ONLY union, but they’re generally people who are working their first private sector job that have never been at a non-union or student council-run airline before.
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Agreed. I would have less of a problem with them (although not on this issue, because this is wrong) if they were actually certified. But they aren't. And I'm pretty sure management funded "unions" are illegal but I'm too lazy to do my homework on the source for that.
 
Derg said:
”All the hassles of being in a union, but none of the national benefits, NLRB recognition or legal resources”.

We have a group of people at my shop who want a SouthernJets Pilots ONLY union, but they’re generally people who are working their first private sector job that have never been at a non-union or student council-run airline before.
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The parable of the "Star-Bellied Sneeches"
 
Derg said:
”All the hassles of being in a union, but none of the national benefits, NLRB recognition or legal resources”.

We have a group of people at my shop who want a SouthernJets Pilots ONLY union, but they’re generally people who are working their first private sector job that have never been at a non-union or student council-run airline before.
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All you have to do is point at APA.
 
JordanD said:
Agreed. I would have less of a problem with them (although not on this issue, because this is wrong) if they were actually certified. But they aren't. And I'm pretty sure management funded "unions" are illegal but I'm too lazy to do my homework on the source for that.
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They're illegal, though I'm on the road right now and can't give you a specific cite.
 
Kingairer said:
All you have to do is point at APA.
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APA is the finest most upstanding bunch of...
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Sorry, I almost got through that
 
Derg said:
We have a group of people at my shop who want a SouthernJets Pilots ONLY union, but they’re generally people who are working their first private sector job that have never been at a non-union or student council-run airline before.
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That's a lot of words to say "morons!"

jtrain609 said:
They're illegal, though I'm on the road right now and can't give you a specific cite.
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I'd be interested to read, but again, the party with standing to this never seems to do anything about it.
 
What a complete mess. If I was still at SkyWest, I would be absolutely freaking out right now about the future implications to my career. That’s really unfair, as most of the SkyWest pilots I flew with are good folks who would do whatever they could to get a jumper on. A lot of the mainline pilots I encountered at the time I was there often said the same, and I took a certain amount of pride in knowing we had a good rep for helping people get to work/home as stress free as possible.

These SAPA guys are naive, selfish jerks. Not to name names, but one of the main guys behind this whole thing is a major tool and left me high and dry when I was a new captain dealing with company shenanigans. The fact that he is once again misinterpreting a major issue is not surprising to me at all.
 
Supposedly a story of ZW pilot being denied a non-rev seat on OO today on APC.
That's right about where swift and painful remedial training is in order if true.
 
BigZ said:
Supposedly a story of ZW pilot being denied a non-rev seat on OO today on APC.
That's right about where swift and painful remedial training is in order if true.
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Yeah those were the instructions given out. Deny all UAL, and UAL exclusive regional pilots. What a crappy time to be a captain in a UAL base. I just keep hoping I don’t have to deal with this personally before it’s over.
 
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