The Great Jumpseat War of 2019

[Adler]

I would not deny a UA pilot a jumpseat because of what some union fight (and in one case, non-union) led to changes in the FOM. As long as they are CASS approved and got the appropriate jumpseat boarding pass, valid license, airline ID, I'm good with that.

What happened to the universal JC attitude of "they pay me to fly how they want, so I follow the rules.." and "...I wear the hat because the books say so".

 

[Autothrust Blue]

What happened to the universal JC attitude of "they pay me to fly how they want, so I follow the rules.." and "...I wear the hat because the books say so".

I more or less think that attitude breaks when you’re threatened for professional retaliation for doing same, as an observation.

 

[Adler]

I more or less think that attitude breaks when you’re threatened for professional retaliation for doing same, as an observation.

I'm not saying Skywest guys arent placed in a tough spot, or commenting about what I would do; rather highlighting that some on this forum, depending on which airline is being discussed, are incredibly hippocritical.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I'm not saying Skywest guys arent placed in a tough spot, or commenting about what I would do; rather highlighting that some on this forum, depending on which airline is being discussed, are incredibly hippocritical.

Indeed. What I would do (and did, finally) was take my talents elsewhere as expeditiously as possible.

 

[Dexter]

Indeed. What I would do (and did, finally) was take my talents elsewhere as expeditiously as possible.

you guys are on the same seniority list.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

you guys are on the same seniority list.

Am aware.

Short of a sudden mobilization of ALPA overnight and a return of adults to the table, I don’t see anything good for individual pilots to do other than take their ball and leave.

 

[derg]

I'm not saying Skywest guys arent placed in a tough spot, or commenting about what I would do; rather highlighting that some on this forum, depending on which airline is being discussed, are incredibly hippocritical.

Thanks, I think? Wait, oh you’re insulting us! CASHMEOUSSIDE!

 

[bLizZuE]

No, United pilots have those.

We R special

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Thanks, I think? Wait, oh you’re insulting us! CASHMEOUSSIDE!

Banned for life, howbowdah?

(a true story brought to you by the Magic School Bus and Danielle Brigoli or however you spell her name)

 

[AAPalmTree]

Yup.

dude!!! I think I know who caused this!!
Is this a legacy AK thing?

 

[Autothrust Blue]

We R special

I mean...

(1) I agree that non-lidded liquids on the flight deck are a hazard, but
(2) seeing cups that say "For pilot use only" or something to that effect in the United typeface gives me a small giggle.

 

[Roger Roger]

What happened to the universal JC attitude of "they pay me to fly how they want, so I follow the rules.." and "...I wear the hat because the books say so".

 

[Karnage]

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Have you been reading the SkyWest manuals? I swear that’s printed in invisible ink on page 1 in every single one of them.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Have you been reading the SkyWest manuals? I swear that’s printed in invisible ink on page 1 in every single one of them.

Bad manuals are bad and they should feel bad. "Hi, have you ever heard of the imperative tone, and did you ever take (much less pass) a logic class?"

 

[Richman]

Hot damn that leash is tiiiiiiiiight! That's less of a leash and probably more of a leather gimp and a whip.

Any language like this that is hysterically^2* overspecific has some kind of story attached to it.

* The squared is because not only is it hysterically funny, but the event behind it was a hysteric overreaction.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Any language like this that is hysterically^2* overspecific has some kind of story attached to it.

* The squared is because not only is it hysterically funny, but the event behind it was a hysteric overreaction.

Most of what lies in an air carrier's FOM or Volume 1 or whatever is there because someone done messed up, A-a-ron, and now the rest of us suffer as a result, as I am sure you are aware.

 

[mrivc211]

My thoughts exactly. Watching this insanity from the outside is entertaining as hell.

whoa, just saw this. Is this for real? SKYW is gonna be in a world of hurt with their commuters trying to get on UAL to get to work.

 

[Old Pete]

whoa, just saw this. Is this for real? SKYW is gonna be in a world of hurt with their commuters trying to get on UAL to get to work.

with the extensive regional network that united has, unless a UA pilot commutes hub to hub I think this may hurt UA pilots more.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Is that to ensure you spill it on the center pedestal when you trip over whatever on your way to your seat?
Cause that's how you spill sticky liquid on 100k avionics.

And that’s precisely why I don’t follow this nugget of the FOB, and would gladly explain myself to anyone that it was in the interest of safety.
The concern is when you open the can, it could fizzle and come pouring out. But the solution is to not open it over an aircraft instrument/console. I take a closed can, sit down, then open it in my crew meal tray (which will contain it), or with my seat still back, open it so anything would fall on the carpet below.

 

[BigZ]

would fall on the carpet below.

Carpet? Mainline guys have carpet? Wtf...