The Attack on the 2nd Amendment Continues

SpiraMirabilis said:
Are you being intentionally (trolly) stupid or do you just not have any idea how the legislative branch works?
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No.

You brought up Wikipedia and here is what they say about your claim...

The authority to call forth the militia was first invoked by George Washington to put down the Whiskey rebellion in Western Pennsylvania in 1794, just before the law granting that authority expired. Congress quickly passed the Militia Act of 1795, which made the provisions of the 1792 act permanent. These Militia Acts were amended by the Militia Act of 1862, which allowed African-Americans to serve in the militias of the United States. They were replaced by the Militia Act of 1903, which established the United States National Guard as the chief body of organized military reserves in the United States.
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Unlike others in this thread where their reading comprehension has failed them, you stated in post 1575 that...

The Militia Act of 1903 defines every male between 18 and 45 as a member of the unorganized militia...
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It was already defined before the Militia Act of 1903. If Wikipedia is wrong, by all means correct it.
 
The Militia Act of 1903 is the law that is currently in force. It makes no sense whatsoever to state previous laws that have been replaced. It is like saying 'The magna carta grants us a right to a free trial!' Besides, you're trying to wiggle away. Let me recap:

I said: 'The Militia Act of 1903 defines the unorganized militia as every male between the ages of 18 and 45.'
You said: 'You sure about that?!'
I said: 'Yes, I am sure about that.' and provided the relevant portion of the law to demonstrate.

Why are you still arguing? You're wrong, I am right but it has nothing to do with owning a weapon which is an individual right in the Constitution. My post was an aside or answer to JEP who questioned what a militia actually was, that is kind of subject to debate but I provided the definition currently enshrined in Federal law. The end. I will not reply further to you on this subject.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
The Militia Act of 1903 is the law that is currently in force. It makes no sense whatsoever to state previous laws that have been replaced. It is like saying 'The magna carta grants us a right to a free trial!' Besides, you're trying to wiggle away. Let me recap:
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That is a pretty poor argument because the 18th Amendment is always talked about, yet is not in force. The New Deal isn't currently being administered, yet we still talk about it. Budgets from past Administrations aren't in force, yet are still a reference point.


Why are you still arguing? .
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I think some in our society would rather go to a gun range and shoot on a Saturday rather than have sex. That is a problem, IMHO.
 
Seggy said:
I think some in our society would rather go to a gun range and shoot on a Saturday rather than have sex. That is a problem, IMHO.
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Some people in our society like to get it on with the same sex, is that a problem in your opinion also?

My point being you're starting to sound like the anti gay marriage crowd. Why do you care what someone does in their free time as long as it's legal and not hurting others?

And for the record, sex is way above shooting on my list of things to do.
 
I enjoy having sex WHILE shooting. What about that Seggy? Is that a problem - I mean, I'm exercising my second amendment rights which you do not approve of while having sex which you apparently do approve of. What about on days other than Saturday which you specified. If I have sex on Sunday as opposed to shooting, is that ok? Final question - is this really the level of argument that anti-gun pinkos have devolved to? What a retrograde group of people liberals are.
 
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Fun read from earlier this week:

BOSTON - National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.

One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily." Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large.
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TrustMeI'maPilot said:
Some people in our society like to get it on with the same sex, is that a problem in your opinion also?
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Nope! I fully support gay rights, including same sex marriage!
 
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