Stick and Rudder..

Roger Roger said:
Capstone has been a big help for sure. Though there was a fatal CFIT in a Capstone phase 2 plane just last year. The NTSB final report was pretty...surfacey and there's a lot more that I have to say about it that I won't because I'm too closely involved there. The medallion foundation has some pretty good stuff too, as long as people are actually changing the way they operate not filling out a bunch of paperwork that makes them look safe.

Really the biggest change from talking to our resident Old Geezer (Jim W, the guy who lost a leg in a 206 wreck) is that now guys (at all the companies) are sitting out weather that they used to blast off into with no GPS, Capstone, often even without VORs in the plane (for all the good that would do around here).
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Youre absolutely right. Companies have gotten a lot more conservative. I no longer see airplanes flying around in weather that I used to see them fly in. Out here in Nome most people file when the weather goes downhill. Especially Bering, they file all the time. Especially with the terrain out here, going IFR seems like a good way to go.
 
Pilot Fighter said:
I don't see a tremendous risk to bodily harm, probably no more than me taking my horse or dirt bike out for a spin.

He is certainly exposing his aircraft to more peril than you would find at your average airport.

I don't really care to know why you think it's dangerous. I am curious why you care.
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Agreed,
I got called reckless behind my back by the older guys at my field in the past because I fly a Pitts, I'm guessing it looks dangerous to them from the FBO couch
Little do they know I feel the same way every time I see one of them use 4500 ft of a 5000ft runway to get a skyhawk stopped.
 
DBrown said:
Agreed,
I got called reckless behind my back by the older guys at my field in the past because I fly a Pitts, I'm guessing it looks dangerous to them from the FBO couch
Little do they know I feel the same way every time I see one of them use 4500 ft of a 5000ft runway to get a skyhawk stopped.
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I have to comment; I have flown a Pitts exactly once. What I did notice is that they like to come down and they like to be flown very assertively. What I thought when I saw a flying a Pitts was that the pilot must be showing off and I hope they don't ruin such a beautiful airplane, but looking from behind the prop, it is simply put, just how you fly a Pitts. Now I wonder, does he have enough bank?!
 
That is going to give Seggy a heart attack!! Man, that is some real talent. He knows that plane. Cubs are more fun than a barrel of monkey snot. I haven't flown one in many, many years. sigh. I remember when Jimmy died up in Canada. Big loss and helluva legacy. Oh hell, I forgot about Amanda too. RIP to them both.
 
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Seggy said:
Look I'm going to say some things here that you will probably take offense to, but you asked for an education I'll give it. You aren't the only one on this thread doing this btw.

As one who is just entering the 121 side of things, you and others are to green to really know anything. You shouldn't be pontificating like you did in post 28, because honestly, you don't know much from the 121 side of things. As you know you are on probation, so while on probation it is just best to sit back and observe how things really work to develop opinions from actually living it. For example, when I first broke into the industry I wasn't a rabid unionist (I was actually a Republican), but seeing things the first year I was at Colgan QUICKLY changed my view on the world. If that sort of change can occur with me the first year in the industry, it can happen to anyone if they sit back and open their ears instead of their mouths.

Same thing when you change airlines, you sit back, shut up and observe.

You and others are to green to the industry and to your respective airlines to not know what you don't know.
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Seggy said:
None, but it doesn't take one who has been through a training program to share facts from the Flight Safety Foundation.



Every time one is critical of something in Alaska, those who have flown up there LOVE to tell others they haven't and those who haven't should shut up. Ok, but that is something we call group think.
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Just to get the rhetoric straight. In the first quote from the other thread you basically tell some one to STFU because "you don't know what you don't know". Now we have several people in this thread saying the same thing to you about flying in Alaska and you call it "group think". So, you can educate people on subjects you know about and expect them to respect your opinion. While at the same time you ignore others and completely disrespect what they're trying to explain, some thing you know nothing about? Wow, just wow.
 
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It is really a matter if ignorance for someone to throw safety spears at types of flying that they have no experience with.
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Ignorance? Safety Spears? You know you and I got in a heated discussion about a year ago over the type of flying you see at the Reno Air Shows. Well, a few months ago I was talking to someone who, like you, had a lot more experience than me with that type of flying. It was a MUCH different perspective than you gave. So, while two people may see the same thing, different opinions are obviously formed. Why then would it be ignorant for me to state what I see?

While the flying in Alaska is difficult, no sense showboating making a video and posting what you can do. It is a good way to end up on an internet fail video.

I've heard the same comments about most of the flying I've done in the military fighter world -- types of flying that the vast majority of the civilian flying world has never even experienced, much less have enough perspective to make educated/informed risk management decisions about.
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Oh come on, you know that I know that Military flying is a different animal.
 
Nark said:
Seggy, have you ever landed on a wet runway?
This video shows a wet runway.
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Yes

Have you ever landed on a grass strip?
This video shows the same thing.
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Nope

Since you failed to understand what I wrote about ground school maybe you'll understand this: both of my Alaskan 135 ground school's covered a vast amount MORE pertinent information than my 121 gig.
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If you say so.

As for the avionics in the 135 aircraft. Once again you have no idea what you are talking about. I, and others sit back and smirk. I can't help but think, man you look silly. Do yourself a favor and google 'capstone.' Ill wait.
Then I want you to explain to me how a CRJ 900 can pull off what a PA32 is capable of doing.
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I have never flown a CRJ-900

Which of course leads me to this:
You have assumed that a bush pilot is dangerous because YOU aren't capable of doing what you just saw. This tells me a lot about you. You look at a gravel bar (aka challenge) and go, "Nope!"
Others look at this and say, "how can I learn to do that!"
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You saying I am not capable of flying what I saw on the video is like me saying, you could never be a Beech 1900 Pilot as you are to used to the fancy electronics of the ERJ-170

I encourage you to visit Alaska and see the beauty, but do all of us a favor: Stay out of the airspace.
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I am sure I would do just fine in the airspace.
 
Seggy said:
Ignorance? Safety Spears? You know you and I got in a heated discussion about a year ago over the type of flying you see at the Reno Air Shows. Well, a few months ago I was talking to someone who, like you, had a lot more experience than me with that type of flying. It was a MUCH different perspective than you gave. So, while two people may see the same thing, different opinions are obviously formed. Why then would it be ignorant for me to state what I see?

While the flying in Alaska is difficult, no sense showboating making a video and posting what you can do. It is a good way to end up on an internet fail video.



Oh come on, you know that I know that Military flying is a different animal.
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But he is not showboating. That how he flies an airplane to an unimproved runway, and that how you should do it. Much to be learned from his example of aircraft control.

So to the Reno case, what difference of perspective? I still remember that thread, where I would suffice to say, like in this one, you made yourself out to be a fool.
 
PositionAndHold said:
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Just to get the rhetoric straight. In the first quote from the other thread you basically tell some one to STFU because "you don't know what you don't know". Now we have several people in this thread saying the same thing to you about flying in Alaska and you call it "group think". So, you can educate people on subjects you know about and expect them to respect your opinion. While at the same time you ignore others and completely disrespect what they're trying to explain, some thing you know nothing about? Wow, just wow.
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Nice try putting words into my mouth. The context of what I was talking about dealt with industrial issues, not safety issues.

No rhetoric. Different context COMPLETELY.
 
n57flyguy said:
But he is not showboating. That how he flies an airplane to an unimproved runway, and that how you should do it. Much to be learned from his example of aircraft control.
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Then why post it to video like this?

So to the Reno case, what difference of perspective? I still remember that thread, where I would suffice to say, like in this one, you made yourself out to be a fool.
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The perspective was that it was only a matter of time before something bad like what happened in Reno happened. To many things were being overlooked and 'experts' involved who aren't 'experts'. MUCH different than what people on here were saying.
 
Here is the thing.

If I was saying, you CAN'T land on gravel, grass, snow, river bed, whatever other geological formation in Alaska because of safety then I would be throwing a 'safety spear' wrongly. However, if you post it of yourself doing it on the internet for whatever reason, you will end up an internet fail video shortly.

Why can't anyone see that instead of jumping in with the group think?
 
Seggy said:
Nice try putting words into my mouth. The context of what I was talking about dealt with industrial issues, not safety issues.

No rhetoric. Different context COMPLETELY.
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Hey, that's ok, I'm pretty sure you don't know about the "industrial issues" up there either.
 
Seggy said:
Then why post it to video like this?

The perspective was that it was only a matter of time before something bad like what happened in Reno happened. To many things were being overlooked and 'experts' involved who aren't 'experts'. MUCH different than what people on here were saying.
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To educate, much to be learned from a guy who can fly an airplane like that. I have flown with guys who have showed me similar techniques, and while not to his level, you see why you might need them one day, and how to implement safely.

There is always a matter of time before something goes bad, like an airshow, there is great inherent risk and liability. Too many things won't suffice that argument, you need to provide details on that.
 
Seggy said:
Here is the thing.

If I was saying, you CAN'T land on gravel, grass, snow, river bed, whatever other geological formation in Alaska because of safety then I would be throwing a 'safety spear' wrongly. However, if you post it of yourself doing it on the internet for whatever reason, you will end up an internet fail video shortly.

Why can't anyone see that instead of jumping in with the group think?
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What group think are you talking about? I see a bunch of people trying to figure out why you are too scared to fly an airplane.
 
n57flyguy said:
What group think are you talking about? I see a bunch of people trying to figure out why you are too scared to fly an airplane.
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Are you posting for yourself or someone else again?
 
watching people disagree in an anonymous forum about their opinions on a you tube video.

This is exactly why Al Gore invented the Internet!


Edit;
And porn
 
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