Spirit Moving Office

[paincorp]

They move the occ and their families and pets. They also put the people who stay behind in hotels near occ so they can keep occ open until DTW is ready and then they are close to open it back up when the storm has passed. They operate at least 4 repos to move all these people. All flights fully staffed with FAs due to amount of people. Food, hotels and transportation to and from hotels to back up occ. over time. Double time. Per Diems. Maybe it’s not 20 million. But it’s high enough to where they are giving serious consideration to moving their occ out of Florida

This.

You gotta figure it’s not just one flight due to duty limitations. Plus hotels for 200 people for a week. Food, over time, transportation, it’s significant.

200 people times $750 for a week of hotel (being conservative) is $150,000.

4 hour flight times 200 people assuming $35/hr average pay is $28,000.

Say 4 flights so you’re paying what, $2k for the crew per flight? (Haven’t seen the Pilot or FA rates, so guessing) and that’s $8,000. Not to factor in deadhead or hotel costs for them.

Food for 200 people for 7 days assuming $15 meal and 3 meals a day is $63,000.

That’s almost a quarter of a million right there before we get into the cost of the flights themselves, over time, other flight cancellations to get the planes available, or additional staff being moved.

That’s a significant cost that the company can only control by getting their SOC permanently out of the path of hurricanes. I don’t know any other airline that wants to add this kind of cost to their books every year with no recourse to stop it.


Anyone wanna add the fuel required for this flight?


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[CRJ200NEO]

I'm not doubting it costs them money. I was just saying that $20,000,000 is an insane number to throw around referring to how much this might cost Spirit.
And the flights to get staff up there no doubt cost money, but what do you think they were going to do with those planes sitting in FLL? Leave them there for the impending hurricane? They obviously need to reposition them out of there anyway. Only additional cost is probably staffing them with flight attendants.

 

[crjdxr]

A ULCC is going to spend nearly $250mil on a new HQ in hurricane central. They are then going to spend more money to remotely locate their OCC? I could be wrong but I think it would make more financial and logistical sense to build a hardened OCC on the new campus.

 

[bbmikej]

A ULCC is going to spend nearly $250mil on a new HQ in hurricane central. They are then going to spend more money to remotely locate their OCC? I could be wrong but I think it would make more financial and logistical sense to build a hardened OCC on the new campus.

The issue wouldn't be wether the OCC could stand up to the weather or not, it's about everything around it. You would almost have to have hotel type rooms and a full kitchen for the people inside because they ain't leaving once they are in. The reason WN and AA can do that is because tornado events only last a few hours where a hurricane can shut down an area for days if not weeks.

 

[crjdxr]

The issue wouldn't be wether the OCC could stand up to the weather or not, it's about everything around it. You would almost have to have hotel type rooms and a full kitchen for the people inside because they ain't leaving once they are in. The reason WN and AA can do that is because tornado events only last a few hours where a hurricane can shut down an area for days if not weeks.

That's a great point but it also applies to the GO itself, doesn't it? How long can the airline continue to operate without an accounting department?

I find it difficult to understand why the key decision makers would prefer to have their OCC hundreds of miles away from them on a daily basis. I get phones and teleconferences and all that. But name me one VP of Ops that doesn't like being able to stroll into an OCC to see how "their" airline is doing?

 

[who'swho]

I'm not doubting it costs them money. I was just saying that $20,000,000 is an insane number to throw around referring to how much this might cost Spirit.
And the flights to get staff up there no doubt cost money, but what do you think they were going to do with those planes sitting in FLL? Leave them there for the impending hurricane? They obviously need to reposition them out of there anyway. Only additional cost is probably staffing them with flight attendants.

Yeah, the $20 mil number is outrageous. Definitely a rumor that's spiraled out of control. Even $2 mil seems steep for a few days. Wouldn't surprise me though to see them move the OCC, it's got to be a huge logistical nightmare each time. Only time will tell.

 

[dispatch_guy24]

I've heard that too. People I know there have talked about Orlando, Atlanta, and even Nashville recently. I'll believe it when there's an official announcement.

If all the rumors at 9E came true, we'd have moved to Atlanta, be dispatching 175s on the west coast, and have mainline flight benefits and profit sharing. Some people were even trying to spread the rumor that we would eventually merge with Delta. Yeah, OK.

Don't forget the dispatch flow through program