Some Tips from AirlineApps.com

Rocketman99 said:
You get immediate feedback that it was saved/sent at the top of any page you click the save button on in bold red letters "your information has been updated." When you have targeted airlines and you click on the publish button you get, also in bold red letters, "Your application(s) has(have) been published. Any future changes or updates to your application(s) will be sent automatically." What more confirmation would you like??? I would get incredibly irritated if I got an email every damn time I updated something on airline apps...
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Quit being so damn obvious.
 
Quick question for filling out aircraft on AirlineApps.

Directions say "Regarding ANY TURBINE aircraft experience, it is recommended to individually list experience in each individual make/model regardless of total experience. If you have 0.5 SIC in a C550 Citation, add it as a separate aircraft. When reviewing application data, airline employers will be sorting and focusing on turbine experience, as well as complex multi-engine experience. You may wish, however, to include the details of every aircraft flown."

What is the proper way to list CL-65? I would think that they want all three variants listed separately. Especially because the large differences in weight and landing characteristics...

And if so, what "type" are they? AirlineApps gives me options for "Model" and "Description". So would I put them in CL65 CR2, CL65 CR9, or would I list them CRJ 200, CRJ 900? In my eLogbook they are simply CRJ, CR7, CR9 because that is the way my company annotates it.

Or do prospective employers even care as long as they can understand what you are intending to log?

Thank you
 
Rodger Wilco said:
Quick question for filling out aircraft on AirlineApps.

Directions say "Regarding ANY TURBINE aircraft experience, it is recommended to individually list experience in each individual make/model regardless of total experience. If you have 0.5 SIC in a C550 Citation, add it as a separate aircraft. When reviewing application data, airline employers will be sorting and focusing on turbine experience, as well as complex multi-engine experience. You may wish, however, to include the details of every aircraft flown."

What is the proper way to list CL-65? I would think that they want all three variants listed separately. Especially because the large differences in weight and landing characteristics...

And if so, what "type" are they? AirlineApps gives me options for "Model" and "Description". So would I put them in CL65 CR2, CL65 CR9, or would I list them CRJ 200, CRJ 900? In my eLogbook they are simply CRJ, CR7, CR9 because that is the way my company annotates it.

Or do prospective employers even care as long as they can understand what you are intending to log?

Thank you
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I listed them separately, as CRJ 900, 700, 200. United didn’t have any issues with it. Who knows about Delta. One of their pilots claims to be an expert on getting your app pulled, and has a weird way of listing it that absolutely NOBODY else does.
 
GypsyPilot said:
I listed them separately, as CRJ 900, 700, 200. United didn’t have any issues with it. Who knows about Delta. One of their pilots claims to be an expert on getting your app pulled, and has a weird way of listing it that absolutely NOBODY else does.
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Is this the same guy that says your resume needs to be 47 pages?
 
GypsyPilot said:
Does anyone else find this stuff (and the Delta thread) a little disheartening? I have done my best to have a very complete profile on airline apps (and have had an account with them for many years). I have numerous LORs, I have years of 121, 135, and corporate experience. I have a four year engineering degree (with honors), and I've never failed a checkride.

Yet it all feels like it comes up short to the absolute PERFECTION a place like Delta apparently demands. I really want to end up at a Legacy, but quite honestly I'm starting to think I need to go back to corporate, or maybe just go back to engineering. I guess I'm just having one of those WTF moments this morning...
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You are not the only one who feels that way.

Often times, applying to one of the majors feels like one big popularity contest not unlike rushing a fraternity. The cool kids have no trouble making the cut, but the rest of us who aren't in the clique have no chance.

Many of the hoops that serious applicants seem to be required to jump through have zero appeal to many pilots. Most 121 pilots here and on the line seem to have forgotten the joy of flying outside of the airline bubble. Every pilot I know who has been involved in ALPA has come out the other side bitter and miserable, no thanks. I was having a hard enough time being a good father to my kids as a basic line pilot and now you want me to burn some of my precious days off doing volunteer work?

Quite frankly I'm very relieved that the door to the major airlines has been bolted shut for me. I no longer give a rip if I'm "tier one" material and can instead focus on my home life and can enjoy flying the way I did when I fell in love with airplanes. You guys enjoy your "airline pilot" life, I'll be flying my bugsmasher around Texas with one of my kids.
 
USMCmech said:
You are not the only one who feels that way.

Often times, applying to one of the majors feels like one big popularity contest not unlike rushing a fraternity. The cool kids have no trouble making the cut, but the rest of us who aren't in the clique have no chance.

Many of the hoops that serious applicants seem to be required to jump through have zero appeal to many pilots. Most 121 pilots here and on the line seem to have forgotten the joy of flying outside of the airline bubble. Every pilot I know who has been involved in ALPA has come out the other side bitter and miserable, no thanks. I was having a hard enough time being a good father to my kids as a basic line pilot and now you want me to burn some of my precious days off doing volunteer work?

Quite frankly I'm very relieved that the door to the major airlines has been bolted shut for me. I no longer give a rip if I'm "tier one" material and can instead focus on my home life and can enjoy flying the way I did when I fell in love with airplanes. You guys enjoy your "airline pilot" life, I'll be flying my bugsmasher around Texas with one of my kids.
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Wow, it’s crazy seeing this old post of mine. So for whatever reason, I finally did get a chance. Two chances in fact, and both were for my top two choices, UAL and FDX. I never gave up, kept pushing and pushing through networking, career advancement, volunteering, etc.

I ended up getting offers from both airlines, and am now in the middle of training at FedEx. Don’t give up man. Because if it can happen for me, it can definitely happen for you.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Wow, it’s crazy seeing this old post of mine.
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Doopphh!

I didn't check the date on the original posts.


As a single dad of five kids, there's no way the 121 airline career path will work for me anymore. I'll be in my 50s when my youngest finishes high school, so count me out of the guys scrambling for one of those precious major airline jobs.

I do stand by my position about "fraternity row" airline jobs.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Wow, it’s crazy seeing this old post of mine. So for whatever reason, I finally did get a chance. Two chances in fact, and both were for my top two choices, UAL and FDX. I never gave up, kept pushing and pushing through networking, career advancement, volunteering, etc.

I ended up getting offers from both airlines, and am now in the middle of training at FedEx. Don’t give up man. Because if it can happen for me, it can definitely happen for you.
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What’d I tell ya. Lol
 
I see too many folks, in here no less, disregard a lot of things other than the big 3 and FexUPS.

Some of us do very, very well not having to wear a hat as a uniform piece.

Food for thought, nothing more.
 
Nark said:
I see too many folks, in here no less, disregard a lot of things other than the big 3 and FexUPS.

Some of us do very, very well not having to wear a hat as a uniform piece.

Food for thought, nothing more.
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No hats at FedUp
 
A80TRACON said:
Not familiar with the app, is this something a majority of pilots looking for jobs use?

Looks like a great resource.
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I think Delta and United use it for applicants. Plus a ton of regional carriers.

It’s a great, for the most part, process. But I think an in-house application is better.

Too much minutia in it. But then again I’m not an HR person. A long time ago I used to pretend to be.
 
Rodger Wilco said:
Quick question for filling out aircraft on AirlineApps.

Directions say "Regarding ANY TURBINE aircraft experience, it is recommended to individually list experience in each individual make/model regardless of total experience. If you have 0.5 SIC in a C550 Citation, add it as a separate aircraft. When reviewing application data, airline employers will be sorting and focusing on turbine experience, as well as complex multi-engine experience. You may wish, however, to include the details of every aircraft flown."

What is the proper way to list CL-65? I would think that they want all three variants listed separately. Especially because the large differences in weight and landing characteristics...

And if so, what "type" are they? AirlineApps gives me options for "Model" and "Description". So would I put them in CL65 CR2, CL65 CR9, or would I list them CRJ 200, CRJ 900? In my eLogbook they are simply CRJ, CR7, CR9 because that is the way my company annotates it.

Or do prospective employers even care as long as they can understand what you are intending to log?

Thank you
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Honestly I have no idea if anyone knows. All my time in my logbook is "CL-65". I literally have no way too differentiate. I log by the day and have flown all three variants in a single day several times. Literally no way for me to split the time up at this point. Especially since my airline only gives access to a few months of past flying and no tail numbers.

I imagine I am not the only one with this problem. I can't plan for such a silly requirement. If they want to know at the interview I can give them a conservative estimate. I really don't expect hiring departments to care though.

I do know some foreign airlines want to know how much time you have in the 7 and 9 because they like jets over a certain max gross weight.
 
Nark said:
I think Delta and United use it for applicants. Plus a ton of regional carriers.

It’s a great, for the most part, process. But I think an in-house application is better.

Too much minutia in it. But then again I’m not an HR person. A long time ago I used to pretend to be.
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Agreed.
 
Derg said:
Dear lord...
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I did an app review for a buddy of mine for the price of zero SkyPesos and it was essentially what "that jackass" charges $400 for, but I'd suspect the advice I gave him was probably (1) better, (2) accurate and (3) actually likely to help. Unlike "that jackass."
 
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