Some Tips from AirlineApps.com

App reviews, for the most part, are like burning money.

I always suggest that “Have a very detail-oriented colleague, hopefully one with an English degree, read your application ensuring that you have answered the question being asked in the most literal fashion”.

I saved everyone $400.

Duties: “Operated high performance part 121 aircraft in challenging airpsace ensuring adherence to all application FARS and providing a pleasant experience for our customers in a positive team building exp...” GOOD GOD SON, DID YOU FLY THE AIRPLANE?
 
Derg said:
App reviews, for the most part, are like burning money.

I always suggest that “Have a very detail-oriented colleague, hopefully one with an English degree, read your application ensuring that you have answered the question being asked in the most literal fashion”.

I saved everyone $400.

Duties: “Operated high performance part 121 aircraft in challenging airpsace ensuring adherence to all application FARS and providing a pleasant experience for our customers in a positive team building exp...” GOOD GOD SON, DID YOU FLY THE AIRPLANE?
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Pilot hiring is a silly process. Interview preparation doubly so. Unless you did more than just being a line pilot there is literally no reason to write anything more than "flew jet, had fun, was pleasant, made money."

Q: Why should we hire you?
A: Because I will perform pilot services for money.

Q: Why are you interested in (air carrier)?
A: Because I want to perform pilot services for money.

Q: What do you bring to this team?
A: I will perform pilot services for money and when I quit or retire you'll either be like, "who?" or "aw man!*"

* unless you are a certain check airman who couldn't resist taking a swipe at me; true story

Q: TMAAT you (whatever).
A: Situation, action, reaction, results or something like that. "There I was, FL370, Mach .81, when all of a sudden...and that's what I learned."
Interviewer: -closes book- "Well let's go have dinner then."

etc.
 
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Derg said:
Duties: “Operated high performance part 121 aircraft in challenging airpsace ensuring adherence to all application FARS and providing a pleasant experience for our customers in a positive team building exp...” GOOD GOD SON, DID YOU FLY THE AIRPLANE?
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What would you recommend to write as duties for an FO? I've seen this advice of yours a lot over the years and completely agree with it. But now that I'm an FO with no other "additional duties," I'm a little stumped on what to write.
 
MikeFavinger said:
What would you recommend to write as duties for an FO? I've seen this advice of yours a lot over the years and completely agree with it. But now that I'm an FO with no other "additional duties," I'm a little stumped on what to write.
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I recommend you go find some.

My experience at my regional is that there's never enough man- or brain-power.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I recommend you go find some.

My experience at my regional is that there's never enough man- or brain-power.
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Yeah, I hear you, but right now I value getting 1000 hours 121 over anything. And I have more than my fair share of "additional duties" in my other "part time" job.
 
MikeFavinger said:
Yeah, I hear you, but right now I value getting 1000 hours 121 over anything. And I have more than my fair share of "additional duties" in my other "part time" job.
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Fair enough. I'd imagine, with Daddy Delta footing the bill, that you're likely at the one regional where there is sufficient man- or brainpower, at least on the company side of the fence. ALPA may well be a different story, though.
 
MikeFavinger said:
Yeah, I hear you, but right now I value getting 1000 hours 121 over anything. And I have more than my fair share of "additional duties" in my other "part time" job.
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You don't need to demonstrate "additional duties."
When they ask, what else did you do during your time as an FO... Kindly refer them back to your previous career.

A friend was told by a very large airline in Chicago, that he needed more leadership experience. At the time he was the commanding officer of a battalion of peoples. (which was on the resume..)

I'd love to have been there, and said, "perhaps you need more reading compression skills before you analyze a resume at a pilot job fair."
 
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Nark said:
You don't need to demonstrate "additional duties."
When they ask, what else did you do during your time as an FO... Kindly refer them back to your previous career.

A friend was told by a very large airline in Chicago, that he needed more leadership experience. At the time he was the commanding officer of a battalion of peoples. (which was on the resume..)

I'd love to have been there, and said, "perhaps you need more reading compression skills before you analyze a resume and a pilot job fair."
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Yeah, absolutely. Interviewing I have no problem detailing leadership or flying experience.

What I'm confused about is what specifically should I write in the duties block on airline apps for the 121 FO position? I show up on on time, I pass recurrent, and I fly safely?
 
Nark said:
You don't need to demonstrate "additional duties."
When they ask, what else did you do during your time as an FO... Kindly refer them back to your previous career.

A friend was told by a very large airline in Chicago, that he needed more leadership experience. At the time he was the commanding officer of a battalion of peoples. (which was on the resume..)

I'd love to have been there, and said, "perhaps you need more reading compression skills before you analyze a resume and a pilot job fair."
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Ah, that scene from The Newsroom. "How do you know these things?" -exasperated- "I read!!!!!"
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Q: What do you bring to this team?
A: I will perform pilot services for money and when I quit or retire you'll either be like, "who?" or "aw man!*"

* unless you are a certain check airman who couldn't resist taking a swipe at me; true story
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Everyone brings joy to the office.
Some when they come, some when they leave :smoke:
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Pilot hiring is a silly process. Interview preparation doubly so. Unless you did more than just being a line pilot there is literally no reason to write anything more than "flew jet, had fun, was pleasant, made money."

Q: Why should we hire you?
A: Because I will perform pilot services for money.

Q: Why are you interested in (air carrier)?
A: Because I want to perform pilot services for money.

Q: What do you bring to this team?
A: I will perform pilot services for money and when I quit or retire you'll either be like, "who?" or "aw man!*"

* unless you are a certain check airman who couldn't resist taking a swipe at me; true story

Q: TMAAT you (whatever).
A: Situation, action, reaction, results or something like that. "There I was, FL370, Mach .81, when all of a sudden...and that's what I learned."
Interviewer: -closes book- "Well let's go have dinner then."

etc.
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“Why are you interested in working here?”

“Because I like to buy sh** and pop bottles on the weekend.”
 
MikeFavinger said:
Yeah, absolutely. Interviewing I have no problem detailing leadership or flying experience.

What I'm confused about is what specifically should I write in the duties block on airline apps for the 121 FO position? I show up on on time, I pass recurrent, and I fly safely?
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If you desire any help with either the company or ALPA side of the fence with other flying/leadership roles shoot me a PM. I’ll get you started in the right direction.
 
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