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Yeah, just something to think about when you interview in the future. Gonna be hard to justify not communicating with the company

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I hear ya. I communicated with them as soon as I felt my sure fire options were exhausted. I didn't want to blow the whistle too soon and lose the trip as I actually wanted to fly and was looking forward to it. I commuted the whole time there to ORD, LAX and SEA and never had that much poo hit the fan at once
 
Yeah, the fact that the company really overlooked an OO plane leaving me at the gate because of a known Delta jumpseating issue was the real kick to the jewels. I can't believe that wasn't a point of emphasis and something they wanted to change, apparently it's an IT issue that falls very low on the priority list of things to do. I expressed that if that wasn't the case and this was fixed, this situation never would have happened. Did they care? Naw lol

No clause is great as long as they have coverage for your inability to get to work and there is no flight cancellation I guess... I'm now a firm believer in a written agreement that will cover my bacon as long as I do my part in accordance with said agreement

Man that is rough, I'm sorry. Our jumpseat agreement with Delta is absolutely horrible... I wish they'd make it "unlimited jumps" like every other carrier has. I am shocked that you didn't bump the mainline pilot out of the jump though. If it was on company, he should have been bumped to the back no questions asked and it given to you.
 
Yeah, the fact that the company really overlooked an OO plane leaving me at the gate because of a known Delta jumpseating issue was the real kick to the jewels. I can't believe that wasn't a point of emphasis and something they wanted to change, apparently it's an IT issue that falls very low on the priority list of things to do. I expressed that if that wasn't the case and this was fixed, this situation never would have happened. Did they care? Naw lol

No clause is great as long as they have coverage for your inability to get to work and there is no flight cancellation I guess... I'm now a firm believer in a written agreement that will cover my bacon as long as I do my part in accordance with said agreement
Best of luck to you man. Sounds like we lost a great guy.
 
Wow man...Sorry to hear!

Scary stuff, guess I should be more nervous about commuting. I've been pretty successful at avoiding Delta for the last 3 months in a Delta hub. Real shame dealing with them without being asked to pay $211. The way they talked about this stuff in training is you have to do a lot more to get the can!

Hope it all works out for the better!! Maybe it was meant to go this way, hopefully!
 
Wow man...Sorry to hear!

Scary stuff, guess I should be more nervous about commuting. I've been pretty successful at avoiding Delta for the last 3 months in a Delta hub. Real shame dealing with them without being asked to pay $211. The way they talked about this stuff in training is you have to do a lot more to get the can!

Hope it all works out for the better!! Maybe it was meant to go this way, hopefully!

Thanks man, I'm approaching this reset as a fresh start. Hoping to get PDX out of training here at Horizon so I don't worry about about commuting lol.
 
Wow man...Sorry to hear!

Scary stuff, guess I should be more nervous about commuting. I've been pretty successful at avoiding Delta for the last 3 months in a Delta hub. Real shame dealing with them without being asked to pay $211. The way they talked about this stuff in training is you have to do a lot more to get the can!

Hope it all works out for the better!! Maybe it was meant to go this way, hopefully!
I found myself teaching the JS module during upgrade.
 
Man that is rough, I'm sorry. Our jumpseat agreement with Delta is absolutely horrible... I wish they'd make it "unlimited jumps" like every other carrier has. I am shocked that you didn't bump the mainline pilot out of the jump though. If it was on company, he should have been bumped to the back no questions asked and it given to you.
The problem is on this side of the fence.

(1) if you flow back with a PPR number, you're supposed to be NRSA not PJS and (2) 410-series PPRs are not authorized for NRSA on non-SKW DCI flights, so.

(and (3) the occupancy of a cabin seat NRSA on a Delta flight regardless of the OPERATED BY fine print requires the payment of the PPR fee, another fact left out of Indoc. "¥PASS RIDER NOT AUTHORIZED FOR FLIGHT¥")

I'm not really sure why anyone is really all that surprised at this development, since it is crushingly old news to me; the entire E75 DAL jumpseat debacle remains, to this day, a sore spot as it isn't really all that fixed as far as I'm concerned either.

(This isn't hard to fix. And we actually could, so.)

Scary stuff, guess I should be more nervous about commuting.
Like almost everything else in this business, it's worth taking moderately seriously. I commuted to reserve when I started at the previous airline; I've only commuted briefly here or as a one-off ("let's try this flying out of here") sort of arrangement. I walked on eggshells when I did it at the previous employer, being on probation—I did NOT want to miss an assignment and have to explain that.

I commuted to SFO ER7 briefly before upgrade out of LAX; that was less than fun and reminded me why I didn't like commuting to DFW EMJ in a previous life. Most every day out to DFW I had to be in the night before, although proffering was awesome and so was getting morning short call when I couldn't get a proffer award. Dunno what I would've done with NYC, other than cry on the jumpseat for 5+ hours on end and not go home on anything less than 3 days off. It sucked. It was an experience, though, and there were bits of it that I enjoyed.

Regarding scary stuff/nerves: something of a rambling discussion on the topic follows:

In our current competitive environment, anything that causes a controllable cancellation gets serious attention. And not showing for a flight assignment with not enough notice to recrew it, resulting in an absolutely controllable cancellation, is going to get serious attention too. (Imagine the cartoon snowball being pushed off the top of the mountain, gaining speed and size, and so on—by the time it reaches you, it's collected dirt, rocks, and sticks and is nasty.)

As I've discussed at least once before (although I'm pretty sure the thread was deleted after @Derg got a legal threat from a n-th generation Arizonan who was not taking said responsibility seriously), reserve is a job like any others, and it is to be accomplished responsibly; you are not called when things are going right, you're called in to make it work when they're not. On this subject, the needs of the many (not cancelling the flight) outweigh the needs of the one (I need to work). Calling in honest sucks, but the business is to load the people into the airplane and take them to the destination safely and on time (as able). Unfortunately, I can't move the airplane from my couch in my pajama pants and neither can you, as awesome as that would be - gotta be there to do it. Living in base as I do, I do a lot of reserve in said pajamas, but not everyone can or does do so. It's a pain. There are ways to make it better, but the basic professional responsibility remains the same.

(The Division goal is [or was, the last time I paid attention] to achieve a rate of controllable pilot crew-related cancellations of under 1 in 10,000 operations, if you were curious; with approximately 2,300 daily departures, this means a rate of well under 1 per day and works out to just over one per week.)

A scheduling aside: One of the fallacies of Long Call is that it's 'better' than Short Call, to which I say "eh, well, maybe, but this is highly circumstantial and depends on the pairing mix and how close you live to work." LCR in EM2 LAX was cakewalk. LCR in any category with SDOs is not a winning proposition for me, since the LCR is the only pilot who can be reliably assigned one.

(This month in MSP I'm not touching LCR with a 10' pole because of the number of SDOs in the pairing package, for instance.)

I do, however, want a commuter clause so that everything is spelled out V-E-R-Y C-L-E-A-R-L-Y if no other reason than it makes handling this consistent; out in MSP/DTW, the expected good faith commute effort is two flights before your showtime, but your mileage with your chief will vary. Clear expectations and rules are in the interest of BOTH sides of the table.
 
LCR in any category with SDOs is not a winning proposition for me, since the LCR is the only pilot who can be reliably assigned one.

What is an SDO? I'm thinking about LCR since I would eventually be living about 2:15 drive away from base. There are SKW flights from where I will be living, but only 2 per day, both Delta. Would that be a circumstance where LCR would be beneficial, in your opinion?
 
What is an SDO? I'm thinking about LCR since I would eventually be living about 2:15 drive away from base. There are SKW flights from where I will be living, but only 2 per day, both Delta. Would that be a circumstance where LCR would be beneficial, in your opinion?
Split-duty overnight, frequently, and incorrectly called a "continuous duty" overnight. (old versus new terms)
 
Yeah my 135 brain can see how on long call, crew support can call you early enough in the AM that you could then be put in "rest" and report for a stand up late the same day.




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