Skywest pilot attempts to steal company plane

Once the plane is back online, I'm not sure I'd feel cozy in a cockpit that a guy shot himself in. Assuming this is where it took place, I'd bet it was.
I doubt this plane will be online ever. I have a picture of the rest of the wing sitting in a hanger.
 
I was always told it's to keep the public calm. Jets are pretty big and hard to hide, so if, for instance a planeload of pax on a Delta flight taxis past a mangled Delta jet that hasn't been masked.. Well, they don't need 100 pax freaking out and demanding to be let off the plane.

Indeed...
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This asshat is going to make my life more difficult, I feel bad for the kids but screw him. If you can't deal with the game, bail, I'm real tired of people making excuses for maniacs.

People screw up, and it's because life pushed them beyond their coping skills and nobody was there to help them turn it around before it was too late.
It can happen to anyone, if they get pushed hard enough.
Yeah, this sucks, and we might get a kneejerk reaction to it, but odds are if somebody has stepped up to help this guy beforehand this might have been preventable.

People have to care. Otherwise we'll never stop these things before they start.
 
This asshat is going to make my life more difficult, I feel bad for the kids but screw him. If you can't deal with the game, bail, I'm real tired of people making excuses for maniacs.

So you're saying you don't have an excuse?

That's a very selfish way of looking at things. But not at all surprising.
 
People also have to want to be helped. All the offered help in the world won't accomplish a damn thing if the helpee won't accept help and make the necessary changes to change their life. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. The horse must choose to drink, or it'll die of dehydration, even standng right next to a stream.
 
People screw up, and it's because life pushed them beyond their coping skills and nobody was there to help them turn it around before it was too late.
It can happen to anyone, if they get pushed hard enough.
Yeah, this sucks, and we might get a kneejerk reaction to it, but odds are if somebody has stepped up to help this guy beforehand this might have been preventable.

People have to care. Otherwise we'll never stop these things before they start.

If they're looking for help or even showing signs of indicating that they need it.

I knew a guy at work that seemed jovial, quick with a joke, polite and fast to buy the first round. Talked to him off and on and I considered him a friend as we did a lot of the rest of us.

I got a call from corporate security one afternoon asking if I had spoken to him in the last 36 hrs or knew anyone that did and I start making telephone calls to other people in our social circle and no one had.

My friend cleaned the house, locked the door to his bedroom and shot himself in the head, with no warning.

No one ignored him in the circle. He didn't have any irrational behavior that any of us could see or didn't display outwardly any signs that he was under distress.




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If they're looking for help or even showing signs of indicating that they need it.

I knew a guy at work that seemed jovial, quick with a joke, polite and fast to buy the first round. Talked to him off and on and I considered him a friend as we did a lot of the rest of us.

I got a call from corporate security one afternoon asking if I had spoken to him in the last 36 hrs or knew anyone that did and I start making telephone calls to other people in our social circle and no one had.

My friend cleaned the house, locked the door to his bedroom and shot himself in the head, with no warning.

No one ignored him in the circle. He didn't have any irrational behavior that any of us could see or didn't display outwardly any signs that he was under distress.

Good point. Unfortunately, sometimes there's just no warning. Often as not, though, somebody gives indications that those close to them will notice.


It's up to us to notice... If we can.


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Again though, the person not only has to show some signs of needing help, but they have to accept help. There is NOTHING that even the most well-meaning of person can do if the individual will not be helped.
 
Girlfriends aren't worth killing yourself over....nuff said

Girlfriends (or boyfriends or husbands or wives) aren't worth committing murder over either. If someone doesn't want to be with you anymore, get professional help if you need it but don't kill them because they don't want to be with you anymore.

And no, they're not worth killing yourself over either. Not at all.
 
This asshat is going to make my life more difficult, I feel bad for the kids but screw him. If you can't deal with the game, bail, I'm real tired of people making excuses for maniacs.
If this guy actually killed his girlfriend as he is suspected of doing, then I have absolutely no sympathy for him. He may have been in need of psyche help or whatever, but in my book there is no excuse for murder, period! The report also says that he was out of jail on bail for a previous arrest for "assault, criminal mischief and harassment," on the same girlfriend that he is suspected of murdering.This alone makes him a criminal in my book for I have no sympathy for women beaters. If all this is true, then this guy is criminal maniac who needed to be brought to justice swiftly.
 
If this guy actually killed his girlfriend as he is suspected of doing, then I have absolutely no sympathy for him. He may have been in need of psyche help or whatever, but in my book there is no excuse for murder, period! The report also says that he was out of jail on bail for a previous arrest for "assault, criminal mischief and harassment," on the same girlfriend that he is suspected of murdering.This alone makes him a criminal in my book for I have no sympathy for women beaters. If all this is true, then this guy is criminal maniac who needed to be brought to justice swiftly.

Assault != "beating", just for the record. From my reading of the article, I didn't see anywhere that he hit her or threatened to do so. See my post in the other thread for my other comments on that (Not that it really matters).

This is part of the problem I was talking about, with regard to overcriminalization. I'm looking at a fellow who had an argument with his girlfriend and damaged some property. Someone called the police, and he was arrested (not convicted!) of a whole bunch of crap that may or may not have been in the scope of normal behavior amidst domestic disputes, and now he's a "criminal" in your book, and you have no sympathy for him.

You may not be -wrong- in your assumptions, but we don't know. We only have one side of the story, in any event, and a very incomplete view of that... so while we, as a society, do tend to convict or acquit people in our minds long before the evidence is shown or vetted, I fundamentally disagree with the practice.

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So entering her apartment, taking back things he'd bought her, getting angry and smashing her computer is okay? You'd be okay with someone you used to date coming into your home and doing that to your things?

I sure wouldn't...

Bottom line- it's pretty obvious he stabbed her to death. There is no excuse for that. What exactly brought it on, we have no way of knowing. If it was just a abandonment rage (OMG YOU LEFT ME HOW COULD YOU) or if it was jealousy induced (OMG YOU'RE SEEING SOMEONE ELSE HOW COULD YOU), or what. But it seems pretty obvious he stabbed her and killed her. That's pretty criminal to me... She wanted him out of her life, and it seems he didn't want to let her go easily. It's okay to tell the other person what's on your mind if you've been dumped, that's fine. But smashing their stuff and stabbing them to death is not. Say your peace, then peace out. Move on. Let life go on for BOTH of you.
 
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