Skywest crew caught drinking, not thinking

Even if you are legal as far as the 8 hour and .02 rules could you still be violated for 91.13 if you blow a .035 at your report time?
 
todd405 said:
Even if you are legal as far as the 8 hour and .02 rules could you still be violated for 91.13 if you blow a .035 at your report time?
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Yes. Remember the FAA 0.04 BAC, the 8 hours "bottle to throttle" and whatever your company demands are three independent rules.

Years ago in my regional days, with short layovers, we'd foolishly drink like Titans returning from victorious battle until the 8 hour point and figured we were safe.

Oh no no no and boy were we lucky.
 
HerrGruyere said:
If they can still smell you the day after, you were wasted.
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I smell like alcohol well into the next afternoon at about the *3 drinks or more the night before* mark. Some people just sweat out the stuff. If I can get a shower and change of clothes, by 10, I'm good, but that wouldn't be realistic on a work day. So I'd be THAT guy that wouldn't be drinking on a layover regardless of how long it is.
 
todd405 said:
Even if you are legal as far as the 8 hour and .02 rules could you still be violated for 91.13 if you blow a .035 at your report time?
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I'm not sure that they'd even have to leave 14 CFR 91.17 to fry you.

In pertinent part,
(a) No person may act or attempt to act as a crewmember of a civil aircraft—
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(2) While under the influence of alcohol;
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HerrGruyere said:
If they can still smell you the day after, you were wasted.
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Smelling like a distillery and being drunk aren't the same thing. Sure, you might get violated for poor personal hygiene, but AFAIK theres no rule against being drunk the night before a flight, only the day of, which they werent.

To quote Jack Black:
"Does anyone know what a hang over is?"
"Does it mean you're drunk?"
"No, it means I was drunk yesterday."
 
So tomorrow I have to conduct drug free workplace training at work. Thanks for validating what I will present!
 
OO FOM does not make any reference to .04, but does mention 8 hour rule.

OO FOM does take into account if odor is present on a crewmember, seems to recommend removal from duty but does not explicity state it. Leaves it up to the MOD.

OO Pilot Policy Manual (basically the pilot contract, and not an FAA approved document) mentions the .02 policy.
 
I think 0.02 is the lowest traceable amount without a blood test.

I THINK
 
My current FO went to class with him. He needs to go to HIMS if what the FO is saying is true. This guy has a real problem.
 
Cal Goat, are you saying I need a haircut?

mikeypat15 said:
OO FOM does not make any reference to .04, but does mention 8 hour rule.

OO FOM does take into account if odor is present on a crewmember, seems to recommend removal from duty but does not explicity state it. Leaves it up to the MOD.

OO Pilot Policy Manual (basically the pilot contract, and not an FAA approved document) mentions the .02 policy.
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I'm sure there's a Standard Practice for that ;)
 
BobDDuck said:
So is knitting. One has the potential to get you fired from your job and one has the potential to put your man card in jeopardy. I personally know which one I'd choose.
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That's not a fair assessment considering you're a non-drinker by choice. Therefore you're only left w/ the jeopardy of the man card. :D
 
That dude is on RETAINER. I was so pissed at how cavalierly Denzel dealt with him. You've got GOLD, buddy, and you're treating it like LEAD.
 
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