"romantic life style"

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Actually, when I was single I dated single pilots. My husband and I met when we were both flying for Ealge.

At office jobs where you're around the same people every day after day, it could be akward to date a co-worker because you'd end up seeing them all the time if/when you break up. With the crews, you can literally go months without seeing someone who's based at the same city you are. I dated a couple Eagle pilots, and never had any akward issues.

Some people really prefer not to date co-workers at all. So when you hear F/As saying "I don't date pilots" (and a LOT of them do say this) it could be that they just don't want to date within the company. Or they just don't like pilots. Some (a very few) F/As have a stereotype that pilots are cheap, boring, all they want to talk about is flying, and unable to commit and always on a power trip. I can't explain these stereotypes, I don't know where they come from or why some F/As think this way.

Most pilots & F/As don't end up with other pilots/F/As. It does happen, but usually crews end up dating & marrying people with 'real' jobs. ("Real job" is a slang term talking about a job where you go home everynight, not dissing the jobs of either pilots or F/As.)
 
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Hmmmm... I've got a different perspective. I LOVE my job!

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I had the pleasure of meeting Chris this summer while in Alaska and it's quite obvious that he really means this. While I didn't get to hang out with him as much as I liked, the last time I saw him he was getting ready to fly a C207 of his former employer from Anchorage to the bush on a cold and wet rainy day. It was very obvious that he LOVED being there, probably for more reasons than then flying.

About a week ago I also met an Alaska 737NG FO in church, and he was the same way; He LOVED his job. He didn't mind the fact that he was taking a pay cut, he knew why and accepted it, because in the end he STILL gets a fantastic mutli-million dollar office at FL350.

My former employer is another one who loves what he does. He gets to walk out of his house, walk 100 feet to one of his Navajos, and fly. I always loved flying with him every chance I got because he still takes the time to tell you about everything, bove above and on the ground. Ditto most people that I had the chance of working with this summer.

In the end it's all really what you make of it. All of these people I've mentioned love what they do, and I look up to all of them. I'm 26 years old now, and have argueably spent the last couple of years screwing around. But I wouldn't trade those years for anything, because they taught me that you better do something that you love, because otherwise you're just going to end up hating your life.

Yes, I have a goal of a "romantic life style" in aviation; I simply want to earn a living doing something that I love to do. While I have no doubt that there are a legion of cynics both on and off these boards that may laugh at that thought, that is my goal at this moment. I'll let you know when I get there.

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Maybe I'm living in a dream world, but it's one that's sustained me for the last five years and probably more to come!

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Chris, all I gotta say is that your dream world better sustain you to those 'really big bush planes' because one of these days you're going to have to walk in my resume!

Now, back to studying for my PPL written.....
 
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TF, that was very well put. I agree with you. I probably enjoy much job almost as much as Chris...............I just wish I had as good of an attitude as he does, what seems like all the time.
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At least on this board.
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Seriously though, good words Chris. I appreciate them. After a few days on the road, I frequently find myself bitching way too much. I will correct that. I'm blessed to be where I am, doing what I'm doing, and I thoroughly enjoy it.
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It's like I always say, it's all how you make it! You can complain about the bad, or you can enjoy the good!!

I choose the latter.
 
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It's like I always say, it's all how you make it! You can complain about the bad, or you can enjoy the good!!

I choose the later.

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Two T's in latter Lloyd!
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Okay, Lloyd, I'm trying to keep a good attitude about that avatar of yours, but it's getting harder and harder with every post!!
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It's just disturbing!
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It's like I always say, it's all how you make it! You can complain about the bad, or you can enjoy the good!!

I choose the later.

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Two T's in latter Lloyd!
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You know what the he11 I meant....
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Hey, this is my first Saturday off in months....I don't know what to do with myself!!

So, I jump on JC....
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Only doing it because it is you, a Veteran of JC!
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I have today off too, cause I am sick and I probably shouldn't fly when taking Sudafed.

I do have to sign my student off for a local area solo to another airport within 50 miles.
 
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Man, last night before bed, I did the nightly "Showtime check", and was mazed to see that it was completely open....
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I said, "Shoot no flying for me....Wait, I'm off! It's Saturday"!!!

It's all weird...Dominique was at a friend's house last ngiht, Samantha and I watched a movie and ate pizza....and now, I'm off on Saturday!!!

The end is Freaking Nigh!!!
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What do you mean when you say "nasty stuff". Can you elaborate?

[/ QUOTE ]i think he's talking about "nasty stuff" as in "sexual nasty stuff"... like STD's, HIV, the proverbial "never going away" luggage....

Amiright.. Amiright???
 
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Okay, Lloyd, I'm trying to keep a good attitude about that avatar of yours, but it's getting harder and harder with every post!!
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It's just disturbing!
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Working on a new one!!
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i think he's talking about "nasty stuff" as in "sexual nasty stuff"... like STD's, HIV, the proverbial "never going away" luggage....

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The gift that keeps on giving.
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Don't want that, and if you hook up every time you fly with a different crew...well, you do the math.

And remember, you're not just sleeping with her, but you're sleeping with everyone she's slept with, so if you hook up all the time, the numbers start to get big really fast.
 
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Sexual harassment can be a problem of in-company dating as well. I've heard that we've had several cases at my company.

I've seen several in-company couples, including some who are married, but have not seen any marrieds cheating.

I did see some crews, mainly younger ones, who liked to party (read: go out drinking every night), but that has gotten increasingly rare. Most of the time, we just grab dinner and go our separate ways at the hotel.

Just being away so much, the temptation can arise, but I don't think that anyone who wouldn't cheat otherwise would be a cheater in an aviation career.

AIDS (aviation induced divorce syndrome) is probably due to long frequent separations more than infidelity, but that is just a guess.
 
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I did see some crews, mainly younger ones, who liked to party (read: go out drinking every night) . . .

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Phew...I was starting to worry!!
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AIDS (aviation induced divorce syndrome) is probably due to long frequent separations more than infidelity, but that is just a guess.

[/ QUOTE ]that and money are the top 2 AIDS symptoms!
 
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I did see some crews, mainly younger ones, who liked to party (read: go out drinking every night), but that has gotten increasingly rare. Most of the time, we just grab dinner and go our separate ways at the hotel.

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I've got some friends that love to do that when there's a long enough layover. Sometimes it was funny -- I'd come and hang out with them and party it up, and then I'd be the one who showed up to work hurting.

Unfortunately, they don't get out here as much after all the cutbacks. It sucks. I used to get at least one visit a month from a bunch of people. I haven't seen them for at least a year!
 
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A lot of the 'bar hopping' during long layovers ended because of the extra scrutiny and high profile alcohol situations. The FAA says '8 hours bottle to throttle', my employer says '8 hours bottle to duty - plus 0.0000000% BAC on duty'.

My personal rules are '12 hours from consumption to wake-up
' because I'm ultra paranoid about this stuff. That usually works out to about 14 hours and there aren't too many compatible layovers.

The 8-hour rule does not provide protection enough to ensure that you have a 0% BAC content before duty.
 
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I wish that I could invite you to my health class. Because my students(age 15 ~ 18) argue with me every time when we discuss alcohol issue. The most popular mis-leading concept is after you drink, eat lots of french fries. Frech Fries can sober you up quick.
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Another popluar concept is drink a lot of coffee. BTW, I had students' parents "bought beers or alcohol" for their childern and their friends.


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BTW, I had students' parents "bought beers or alcohol" for their childern and their friends.

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My parents were awesome on the system. They would happily supply drinks from about 8th grade on, but on the flip sided they insisted I be ultra careful about drinking and driving. Until I was 21 it was 0 alcohol if I drove!!
 
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Well, the 8 hour 'bottle to throttle' rule is a little misleading.

This is just theoretical

I did a google search and it looks like at my weight, one alcoholic beverage will produce a .022 BAC. The chart says it should take about two hours to completely work that amount of alcohol out of my system.

So you have a drink four hours prior to duty. Even though your body has processed the liquor to help you arrive at 0% BAC, you're still in violation of the FARs.

Or so you go out and pound ten beers like Bluto from "Animal House", but stop 8 hours prior to assuming flight duty. At my weight, I'd still have around a .09% BAC which satisfies the "8-hour rule" but violates the FAA's .04% BAC and especially my employer's 0% BAC rule.

It'd take at least 12 hours to be legal as per the FAA and about 14 hours to not get fired.

I think this is what got a lot of people in trouble in the last few years - mistakenly thinking that as long as you stop eight hours prior to flight duty, that it's sufficient protection for the FAA and companies legal limits.

Which means, well the best policy is...well, ya know.
 
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