Regional airlines new TAs rumor mill

ATN_Pilot said:
That's pretty sad that a quarter of the pilot group didn't bother to vote.
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Does that statistic only include eligible voters?

My union liked to validate their passing of a crappy LoA without a vote by saying that there was a crappy turnout for MEC voting yet a full third of the the total pilot group was ineligible
 
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BobDDuck said:
but don't for one second think that American management is out of the loop on things.
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chrisreedrules said:
That would be an amazing turnout given my pilot group’s recent history.
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I haven't seen an actual vote here other than for LEC reps (weak turnout). Much harder to make an informed vote for a LEC rep when you have no idea who they are or what they believe. With a contract you actually have some ability to compare the new vs old.

Every LOA so far since I have been on property hasn't had an actual pilot vote nor any external input prior to an MEC vote. Not really unexpected from a MEC that hasn't had an all pilot call in 8+ months.
 
Doesn't look bad
Best of luck to the ExpressJet guys, you deserve it

@Maximillian_Jenius from APC
ExpressJet TA 2018 - unofficial notes
CA 50 seat
Now DOS
1 62.92 68.34
2 64.75 70.33
3 66.67 72.38
4 68.61 74.46
5 70.64 76.64
6 72.71 78.9
7 74.12 80.44
8 76.3 82.76
9 78.54 85.2
10 80.85 87.73
11 83.23 90.26
12 85.68 92.91
13 88.21 95.68
14 90.81 98.47
15 92.6 100.09
16 94.43 102.04
17 96.28 103.54
18 98.18 105.06

FO 50-76 seat
Now DOS
1 37 40
2 37.63 42
3 37.96 44
4 40.38 46
5 41.54 46.46
6 42.75 46.92
7 43.98 47.39
8 45.26 47.87

CA 70-76 seat
Now DOS
1 63.27 71.82
2 65.24 73.89
3 67.24 76.06
4 69.33 78.32
5 71.48 80.54
6 73.69 82.94
7 75.95 84.55
8 78.3 87.01
9 81.47 89.57
10 84.74 92.19
11 87.37 94.91
12 90 97.09
13 92.86 100.59
14 95.72 103.53
15 98.68 105.22
16 101.65 107.3
17 104.68 108.88
18 107.83 110.48

EQO (quarterly bonus payout)
CA- $2,000/quarter
FO - $2,500/quarter
Contractual - Cannot be taken away
Prorated with 70 hour line average over the quarter, see table.

New Hire Bonuses
Up to $40k - company has discretion

Holiday Pay
150% for 6 holidays if you work on that holiday

Scheduling
Mostly changes to reserve rules

Insurance
25% to 30% of premium
LTD

No changes to LTD language

DOS
Per Diem 1.95

Retirement - UNCHANGED
KEEP Defined Contribution PLAN for current pilots
NEW HIRES NO LONGER GET DC PLAN after DOS (October 1st)
ASA pilots get DC Plan

Line Check Pilot Override
DOS
$24/hr

Duration
3 years
Early opener
2 year 3 months
Plan
171 aircraft

If ratified
UA will award minimum 20 175 A/C beginnging Q2 2019

If 175's do not arrive
Immediately go back into Section 6 negotiations Jan 2019

If a "secret contingency" does not occur by Jan 2019
Back to section 6 negotiations immediately
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word302 said:
Ugh. Same BS Inc pulled with us. They don't want to pay rates that would attract new hires, but they want to be able to pay out huge signing bonuses to get people in the door.
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They did get the quarterly bonus (not tied to company profit or anything) written in the contract. Straight hourly increase would have been better, but as is it is also a $10FO/$8CA hourly bump to the posted rates.
Is it Endeavour? No. But it isn't recent Air Whiskey/SkyWest/Piedmont either
 
BigZ said:
They did get the quarterly bonus (not tied to company profit or anything) written in the contract. Straight hourly increase would have been better, but as is it is also a $10FO/$8CA hourly bump to the posted rates.
Is it Endeavour? No. But it isn't recent Air Whiskey/SkyWest/Piedmont either
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It’s almost exactly what I thought they would be offered. Some interesting contingencies in that TA as well.
 
BigZ said:
They did get the quarterly bonus (not tied to company profit or anything) written in the contract. Straight hourly increase would have been better, but as is it is also a $10FO/$8CA hourly bump to the posted rates.
Is it Endeavour? No. But it isn't recent Air Whiskey/SkyWest/Piedmont either
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Giving up $40k signing bonuses ensures they will have 0 leverage for years to come.
 
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