Red Tails!

[WacoFan]

Here's the movie I'd love to see. Think "High Noon" or the series "24" or other shows that based things on actual time elapsed.

Since "Red Tails" has already been done, and in a superior way (simply by virtue of no CGI), in the form of Tuskegee Airman...and since I said above it is kind of insulting that people think there is only one story to tell out of the Tuskegee Airman - here's what I'd like: A movie that would depict something like 24 hours in the life of a Tuskegee Airman. The whole nine-yards - the tension of briefing for a mission, the mission, the after-mission briefing, the daily slights as they would run across white pilots/crews, etc. I think you could make a tense movie about this that would be different that Tuskegee Airman. Keep in mind, one of the greatest war movies ever was 12 O'Clock High and it tells you more about pilots/aircrew than Memphis Belle which actually had lots more "flying" in it.

 

[pullup]

I'm not seeing it if there's black people in it.

 

[jynxyjoe]

I'm not seeing it if there's black people in it.

Lol.

No drinking before 5pm pullup

 

[Hacker15e]

For the young uns, who have grown up around CGI and therefore don't despise it like me...do yourself a favor.

Rent the following:

The Blue Max
The Great Waldo Pepper
Tora Tora Tora
Midway
The Tuskegee Airman

Don't forget Catch 22 -- the mass takeoff scene of all the B-25s is PHENOMENAL.

 

[rframe]

I'm not seeing it if there's black people in it.

What did you say???

 

[NickH]

Don't forget Catch 22 -- the mass takeoff scene of all the B-25s is PHENOMENAL.

THAT was some great CGI.

 

[killbilly]

I gotta go with WacoFan on this one. I saw the trailers and just had to grimace. I may only see it as a matinee.

CGI may be the best thing to happen to anyone who wants to tell a story involving lots of expensive hardware. I imagine, even on something as well-budgeted as Top Gun was, that it's nigh impossible to get insurance companies to cover the camera pilots for aero work these days. Look what happened to Art Scholl.

What's irritating, though, is that CGI could be used authentically and it isn't. Just because they CAN put a Mustang into an impossible maneuver doesn't mean they should.

Don't hate the tool. Hate what they're doing with it.

 

[WacoFan]

I'm not seeing it if there's black people in it.

They must have CGI'd the black people into the cockpits. Everyone knows black people can't fly and that the Tuskegee Airman were a myth, like the moon landing and 9-11 being perpetrated by foreigners...

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I gotta go with WacoFan on this one. I saw the trailers and just had to grimace. I may only see it as a matinee.

CGI may be the best thing to happen to anyone who wants to tell a story involving lots of expensive hardware. I imagine, even on something as well-budgeted as Top Gun was, that it's nigh impossible to get insurance companies to cover the camera pilots for aero work these days. Look what happened to Art Scholl.

What's irritating, though, is that CGI could be used authentically and it isn't. Just because they CAN put a Mustang into an impossible maneuver doesn't mean they should.

Don't hate the tool. Hate what they're doing with it.

This is really the summary of my complaints about CGI too. I don't have anything against it, just...be accurate.

 

[MikeOH58]

Can an F-22 even do that backflip maneuver we see in the trailer !?!?

 

[ProudPilot]

They must have CGI'd the black people into the cockpits. Everyone knows black people can't fly and that the Tuskegee Airman were a myth, like the moon landing and 9-11 being perpetrated by foreigners...

I should just find a way to make every one of your posts auto hide. You know, make them roll up into a "spoiler" tag.

 

[derg]

I should just find a way to make every one of your posts auto hide. You know, make them roll up into a "spoiler" tag.

You know you *can* ignore people.

I'm not quite sure why people do that, but they do.

 

[ProudPilot]

You know you *can* ignore people.

I'm not quite sure why people do that, but they do.

Yeah, and I do most of the time. I just hate the idea of the loudest one being the final word. Seems like that's where our politics in America are, while money shouts the loudest.

 

[WacoFan]

Yeah, and I do most of the time. I just hate the idea of the loudest one being the final word. Seems like that's where our politics in America are, while money shouts the loudest.

Don't want to degrade your deep thoughts here or anything...but hell, you may have me on ignore anyway...so - where does this statement come from? I mean, the thread is about the Tuskegee Airman movie...copious bitching about CGI and George Lucas in general...some good natured racism (Pullup and Me) and even an attempt to drag Qutch/Data into the mix with the moon landing and 9-11 controversy...and you come with an occupy Wall Street type vibe. Where is that from?

 

[Whatusername]

Here's what I'd like: A movie that would depict something like 24 hours in the life of a Tuskegee Airman. The whole nine-yards - the tension of briefing for a mission, the mission, the after-mission briefing, the daily slights as they would run across white pilots/crews, etc. I think you could make a tense movie about this that would be different that Tuskegee Airman.

That's a pretty cool idea. Although I don't see it working as a 2hr movie. I think it would make a great mini-series though. In fact if you really wanted to you might be able to make it stretch two seasons. Season one can focus the day/week in the life of a Tuskegee Airman. For the second season you could have a day/week in the life a bomber crew.

 

[WacoFan]

That's a pretty cool idea. Although I don't see it working as a 2hr movie. I think it would make a great mini-series though. In fact if you really wanted to you might be able to make it stretch two seasons. Season one can focus the day/week in the life of a Tuskegee Airman. For the second season you could have a day/week in the life a bomber crew.

Great thought. HBO or AMC would have to make it though - it sounds too high-quality for one of the networks. It would interfere with people picking a spouse out of 25 complete strangers or transsexuals doing ballroom dancing and such.

 

[thevideographer]

Looks like I'm a little late to this party but I just saw this trailer and it looks like •. It's not just the use of CGI, it's the use of bad CGI that bothers me. I saw George Lucas on The Daily Show and he spent 10 minutes talking about how expensive and hard to make it was... for 1990s special effects? He also never mentioned Tuskegee Airmen at all and tried to pass off Red Tails as a completely untold story.

As for these rumors of George Lucas being a "good" filmmaker, I would direct anyone with that misconception to watch some of the videos on redlettermedia.com. They do a good job exposing Lucas as a HACK. Basically, his famous works are famous because he had people with actual skill helping him. Then when he became rich enough to start producing movies on his own he rejected all of the help and we got the Star Wars prequels.

Seriously though, Combat Flight Sim 3 had graphics as good as this movie.

 

[pete2800]

I've seen the trailer a few times, and I had to hold back the vomit. Seriously, it looks absolutely unwatchable.

Couple that with the God-awful dubstep "music," and you end up with the following:

-Terrible CGI-BZZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRWUBWUBWUB-Unrealistic maneuver-BRRRRRRRRGZZZZZZZZWUBGRRRR-Mistold story-WUBWUBGRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZ-

Bloody hell, man.

 

[Boris Badenov]

I've only seen the trailers and it makes me want to kill everyone involved in making it. The next step is "The Tuskegee Airmen: The Breakfast Cereal". Possibly the worst (and I say that advisedly) in a long line of affronts to history that Hollywood has commited. I'm serious. This might be worse than Pearl Harbor, and that's going a ways.

Some people seem to think that having "their story" as a Major Motion Picture is somehow a Win. Having their story as some sort of trite, moralistic, set-piece shoot-em-up is a pathetic denigration of how incredible and meaningful what they really did was. It makes me angry just thinking about it. Off to kick some puppies!

 

[averettpilot]

I wish someone such as the Hanks/Spielberg combo would do a movie based around the Pacific carrier groups in WWII. There is such a great story to be told and told well there.

I haven't made it through this entire thread yet, but a heck yeah x2 to that! That would make an awesome movie.