Red Tails!

flyingbum said:
I hear the argument of shooting without using CGI, and some P-51 realism would make any aviation buff drool for days on end. However, CGI is probably cheaper to produce in the long run, and they can make the scenes without having to pay millions in insurance.
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What's sad is they actually leased several Mustangs (D models, unfortunately...which is what ended up in the movie. Shoulda been B/C models) and filmed lots of footage of them taking off, landing, and in flight. They were to be the "base shots" that the CGI was placed over, and the models for the CGI aircraft.
 
Hacker15e said:
Just because it deals with the same subject matter as another flick doesn't make it 'a movie that's all ready been made'.

No more than "Pearl Harbor" was a re-make of "Tora! Tora! Tora!".
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Interesting note one of the pilots Kenneth M. Taylor that took off in his P-47 and fought the Japanese Zeros considered the film Pearl Harbor the movie "a piece of trash... over-sensationalized and distorted".

AS for Red Tails I just hope Lucas does not mess this one up. I have been very dissapointed with him as of late. (The latest Indiana Jones movie was the final straw for me)
 
I loved the Larry Fishburne, Tuskogee Airman HBO movie - a lot. Justified HBO for a long time for me.

It seems that Hollywood is officially out of stories with remakes, sequels, movie versions of marginal TV shows, etc being dominant. If this is simply a CGI'd (and I HATE HATE HATE CGI - will not watch a heavily CGI'd flying movie because it just sucks ass) - if this is simply a CGI'd version of Tuskogee Airman I will be disappointed. And, what a slap in the face it would be - are we to believe that there would be only one narrative or storyline out of the entire Tuskogee Airman experience?

Journalism has changed - in some ways for the better - with the internet and blogs, etc.

Writting has changed for the same reasons - look at our own SeatClutcher and her writing and the indy publishing thing.

I hope that technology can lower costs and provide more access for filmmakers that can't get on Hollywoods radar - that would be a Godsend as Hollywood is stuck on a rinse/repeat cycle.
 
CrippleHawk said:
Interesting note one of the pilots Kenneth M. Taylor that took off in his P-47 and fought the Japanese Zeros considered the film Pearl Harbor the movie "a piece of trash... over-sensationalized and distorted".
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There were no P-47s at Pearl Harbor. Either you mean P-40s (which were at Wheeler on 7 Dec 1941) or you're just generally referring to Mr. Taylor flying Jugs in the Pacific against the Japanese...

That being said, anyone with any aviation sense about them at all thought that Pearl Harbor was a complete waste of a movie, outside of all of Kate Beckinsale's screen time.
 
atpwannabe said:
Definitely going to check that out!. And they never lost a bomber.:cool:




atp
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Not true, that is a myth. They lost around 25 bombers to enemy fighters. All in all, their record is decent but of course their struggle against racism is to be admired.
 
Hacker15e said:
There were no P-47s at Pearl Harbor. Either you mean P-40s (which were at Wheeler on 7 Dec 1941) or you're just generally referring to Mr. Taylor flying Jugs in the Pacific against the Japanese...

That being said, anyone with any aviation sense about them at all thought that Pearl Harbor was a complete waste of a movie, outside of all of Kate Beckinsale's screen time.
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OOPS my bad i meant the P-40s not the P-47:o . Once again sorry for the mess up
 
I've actually met several of the Tuskegee Airmen back when OBAP would run joint conventions with TAI.
 
Matt13C said:
Method Man flying a Mustang. I'll watch.
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I would pay a lot of money to watch the Wu Tang Clan take out Nazis in P 51s. That would be badass! Only if they did it while smoking a blunt and there was a torture scene where they put a Nazis nuts in a dresser and closed it like BLAWWW!!
 
BigWaveDave said:
I would pay a lot of money to watch the Wu Tang Clan take out Nazis in P 51s. That would be badass! Only if they did it while smoking a blunt and there was a torture scene where they put a Nazis nuts in a dresser and closed it like BLAWWW!!
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Fantastic!:clap:
 
Doug Taylor said:
I've actually met several of the Tuskegee Airmen back when OBAP would run joint conventions with TAI.
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4 were at the Tech Center last week. They opened by playing the trailer to the movie. In all it was a good speech, but these guys are definitely getting up there in age. The best part was when someone asked about transitioning into the P-51s and the training they may have received. His answer was essentially, 'we read the manual and went flying. A plane is a plane. We even had fighter pilots taking twin engine bombers to the rest camp in Africa with a bunch of guys in the back. You'd just push up two throttles and go.' Thought that was the best story of the day.
 
I would think it's probably cheaper to build a CGI studio, staff and equip it, than to rent a P-51 for 100 hours.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I would think it's probably cheaper to build a CGI studio, staff and equip it, than to rent a P-51 for 100 hours.
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That is absolutely true. But it still sucks ass. They will pay tens of millions for actors today of marginal talent, but they won't spend a few extra bucks on actual airplanes and do the cheap CGI stuff instead?

I will not be seeing Red Tails. From the commercials I've seen with the CGI airplanes doing strange turns at impossible angles and such I can tell it will be a horrible disappointment. Never saw Pearl Harbor either - because I caught a glimpse of the attack scene with the CGI airplanes. It just absolutely ruins it for me.

For the young uns, who have grown up around CGI and therefore don't despise it like me...do yourself a favor.

Rent the following:

The Blue Max
The Great Waldo Pepper
Tora Tora Tora
Midway
The Tuskegee Airman
 
I'm going to see it, but for me, the flying is just sprinkles on the icing on the cake.
 
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