kellwolf
Piece of Trash
That'd be awesome, but I won't hold my breath. That's about what I make on 4th year CA pay. It's also more than most majors pay first year FOs. If they can pull it off, good for them.
RAH E190 Rates
- Thread starter Seggy
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That'd be awesome, but I won't hold my breath. That's about what I make on 4th year CA pay. It's also more than most majors pay first year FOs. If they can pull it off, good for them.
Hootie
Old Skool
Serious? Or are you joking?
surreal1221
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SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
Of course he's joking! BB wouldn't be trying the whole "1 seat inop" BS if he had any desire to pay an appropriate wage for this aircraft.
meyers9163
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Marcus, you are a professional right? You have a college degree? He already know? Due to not be hired there? Seriously "bro" you are too smart for that crap. Plus if you knew even half of the story. I never interviewed there. Guess I had the wrong traits to be hired at 500 hours at RAH. But I guess it is all about who you know, oh wait no obviously that's not the case. Wonder what it could have been? Or do we go with the, "Who did you speak to there with those hours?" And get the reply, "I have to worry about myself and cannot help you, I have to take care of number one." Guess that's exactly the attitude of the same guy who thinks all the Midwest pilots should be below him as well.... Not much of a surprise.
And to my knowledge and many out there who work for RAH. No one else got hired below 1000 hours during that time at RAH. Even those who did an internship with them needed 1000/100 before getting hired.... But again, it must be all about WHO you know and not anything else....
KLB
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That goes to show you how small the aviation community really is. I knew exactly who they were talking about. As you know Marcus, he's a good friend of mine. I just talked with him the other day. I indirectly played a smalled part in him getting the interview also.
That's the thing also. Getting the interview at such a low time may have been a small feat, but he still had to do well enough to get hired.
Jtrain got hired at AMF at around 500 because he found a connection through networking. I got hired at AMF with 1206hrs. It wasn't the first time I put in my app either. It took me using Jtrain and making a good impression on an ACP to get noticed!
That's just the way the industry is set up.:dunno:
meyers9163
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Trip7
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I don't know what you talking bout. I know several people just from ATP that got hired at RAH below 1000TT. Heck if you did the ATP RJ course RAH mins were 500/100.
And 1500 w/ an ATP will never get passed. You're in dream land if you think it will. They are developing the MPL, 1500 is not close to being a 121 regulation. The 1500 idea just came as a result of some Congressman jumping on his high horse to make some noise but will never be put in the real bill.
meyers9163
Well-Known Member
To be debated on another thread.... Its going to happen. If you want things to improve you should HOPE this happens.
And like you said, with the RJ course
! If I remember right, which I just confirmed by looking, someone lacked that course !
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Nah, like Paul said, before the industry was set up so management could hire the starry eyed young kids that went to JetU and will tow the line rather than rock the boat instead of hiring the more experienced 1000+ hour guys who I and numerous others walked resumes in for. Those guys don't get calls, but someone with less actual than my four year old gets the nod.
With the new oversight rules, let's hope experience at least plays a SMALL part in the hiring decision again.
KLB
Well-Known Member
Well that's because you guys are just looking at regionals. Our very own Seggy got an interview at Delta with around 2500hrs total time and just over a 1000TPIC. There's no way he would have gotten that interview if it weren't for networking.
The guy their talking about got his interview because he had a connection with the recruiters. It wasn't because he was some starry eyed "I'm going to JetU to get there faster kid". It just looks like a bunch of jealousy to me. As a matter of fact, he had a little less time than you had when you got hired at PCL.
meyers9163
Well-Known Member
Who are you kidding? I know a lady who got hired with just a little more than those times flying a Caravan. Now she's flying a 757/767 for DAL. She got hired at both PSA and DAL. Wonder what kind of decision that was. In addition this was a time during which they were in need of a lot of pilots quick (a relative term for them). Not saying Seggy did not network and get his connections in order. But he had to have the time. I HIGHLY doubt DAL would have let him interview based on connections only when he had 2500 hours and lets say ZERO turbine PIC
! ps... KLB unless you know the facts and both sides of a story, I'd just ask you to zip it and either get informed or stay out. Those like SoCal and Delia know some facts... If you want to ask me or them, and get informed then we can talk. Thanks!
meyers9163
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I'll take a bet on that then. Much like you were so COCKY that the E190 would NEVER be flown by a regional. Much like you have said on this forum, and others... Seems like your hunches really pay off
!
Now I'm curious because that doesn't sound right. PM me a name and I'll have a peek at the seniority list.
meyers9163
Well-Known Member
As soon as I get her last name I'll send it your way.... She got both interviews with PSA and DAL. She had previous caravan experience and thus her "turbine PIC" time. She went to the DAL interview really not expecting anything to come of it, but one of those why the hell nots... And to her surprise got hired.... Let me email the one guy in my class that still talks to her and get the name again...
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
I know someone who had 0 TPIC and noone walked in his resume and he got hired at CAL (was AE FO), but now he's furloughed. But anyway, weird things happen.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
You're talking apples to oranges there, and for the record I do know some guys that got an interview at Delta sans networking with about those times. That's not an unheard of number of hours to have been interviewed at Delta during the time frame.
Now, I do agree that networking is important, but I think by bringing up the fact the guy knew the recruiters, you might be making other people's points for them. Jealousy? Maybe. I'll flat out admit I was jealous of the bridge program guys getting hired at regionals with half the multi and 200 hours less total than I had when I was instructing. All because they paid a couple of extra grand to get the interview. I said it then, and I was proven right by a few other regionals: bridge programs will (and did) increase the costs to get hired at a regional.