QX2059 Jumpseater tries to shutdown engines
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I swear y'all would defend someone that crashes their car while on something... I don't give a PHUQUE what you think they were, they're still a piece of CHIT!
You spewed this BS on my FB, I see you drunk walked your way onto JC to do the same. WTF is wrong with you?
Self-awareness is the first step in the process.Like, I'm definitely being an • with this conversation, but daphuq???
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He could add a few things to that list...
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Step one is self awareness.Like, I'm definitely being an • with this conversation, but daphuq???
Step two is not being an •.
Step 1.5 might be putting down the Mountain Dew.
Anyway.
I think I can say, with a straight face, that he absolutely had an obligation to self-ground at some point, that I do not condone his actions whatsoever and that he should be held responsible for them. I believe the system WILL hold him to account. And I don’t think we need to pile on, or we certainly don’t need you to pile on in your normal style: trouble in two courthouses and being held without bail (yes, last I looked) is enough.
I can also say, with a straight face, that the system is simply not set up to provide an anywhere nearly close to reasonable (or realistically achievable, even) process for return to flight for mental health issues and that it is directly responsible for this getting to this point. Or even just health issues period—a friend of mine has been mired in the process for years, and despite being in tip-top physical condition, literally running marathons, and beating lung cancer (as opposed to one Whopper away from a massive MI, which is what many domestic Captains look like as they wheeze between 737s) they had him sit out for a long while.
I can also say with a straight face that the Multnomah County DA, or whomever it is, is doing the state thing of throwing big charges around, while the Feds are much more sober and clearheaded about the matter.
Despite how it’s occasionally practiced in aviation, just culture does not and has never implied a lack of direct individual accountability, and both the Federal Government and the State of Oregon are going to rigorously check that box here. It does mean, however, that when something happens, the entire system has to do a little introspection or self-examination. He’s responsible, and accountable, for what he did. He got there because the aeromedical system is fundamentally broken and I think that’s what many of us are hitting around (or directly upon) here.
Tommay85
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Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Well, you can always leave it to those of us who do; this isn’t a good “look.”
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The irony is that you are a degenerate drunk who is grossly obsessed with cats. If that doesn’t scream mental health disorder, I don’t know what does…
poser765
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Who is this guy? Which one you ordered him and can you send him back before he pees on the carpet or breaks something because some looked at his daughter “wrong”?Like, I'm definitely being an • with this conversation, but daphuq???
Minuteman
“Dongola”
My read of the article is that he thought he was in a dream and that the only consequence would be that he would wake up. I did not see any indication that he had malice for other travellers or any desire to harm himself or others.
But you, I get a weird jilted-lover energy. Did he steal your partner or something?
But you, I get a weird jilted-lover energy. Did he steal your partner or something?
poser765
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Nah. Not jilted lover. Seems more like a display of “look how tough I am to mask own insecurities. I bet also is the kind of dude that wears “I know how to kill you and make your body disappear so you better not hurt my daughter” t-shirt.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
A 2002 joiner. Would seem to be one of the longer term members here. I don't recall much though.
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He used to spend his days talking down to others who weren't typed in the Metroliner and also bragged about how cool flying for Ameriflight was.
The red flags were there all along...
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
I mean, it isn't like he was jumpseating to South America on Atlas while sitting reserve at a regional or anything.
3rd generation Arizonian.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
You forgot the fireworks
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
I could never forget those staggeringly beautiful images captured by what must be an incredibly talented photographer.
Just look at the timestamp. It doesn't even have a time, it says "Titos 'n DEW"
