kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Um, Timberlake pretty much shaves his head now.......It's actually a lot like mine, only mine is shorter.
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Um, Timberlake pretty much shaves his head now.......It's actually a lot like mine, only mine is shorter.
B767Driver
New Member
Should I cut a bunch of pictures out of mens magazines and have them approved by you? Ah forget it, I don't want to get into semantics on men's hairstyles
IMO, men's magazines should have more women in them than men. Actually, they shouldn't have any men in them.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Well, I certainly think that, but I also think they taxi unprofessionally, the FAs make unprofessional PAs, etc... I like their labor relations, but that's about the only thing I like about SWA. It's a different segment of the market, though. Most business travelers wouldn't step foot on a Southwest airplane, because they expect a big first-class seat, assigned seating, free drinks, etc...
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
The items you mention in the above paragraph tend to be an operational reflection of SWA's internal corporate culture. Their offices are some of the most relaxed, laid-back places I've ever been. It's almost eerie how happy some of the employees are - it's like they're pumping nitrous into the air conditioners.
I can't argue the rightness or wrongness of this, I'm just saying that what you're seeing there applies throughout the enterprise.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
It is eerie, which is why I never applied there. The whole atmosphere just freaks me out. It's more like a cult than a corporation. JetBlue seems the same way to me, though.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Heh. Maybe I should have said "strange" instead of "eerie" - there's a negative connotation there. Frankly, if they had an opening for someone with my skillset, I'd jump in there in an effin' heartbeat.
I think that corporate culture at Southwest is one of the biggest draws to that company. I'm sorry but I don't wanna goto work everyday where everyone looks like they are overworked and underpaid. This is the look that many of the airlines have these days.
I think the traveling public much rather have a pilot that loves his job and isn't disgruntled then someone that looks like the cover of the uniform company's catalog but is only there for the paycheck and counting down the days till he's out of there.
That however is my opinion. Some of you guys spew opinions around here like they are facts which they are not. Unless you can post scientific and unbiased research on what the traveling public views as safe and/or professional, all you are providing are your views on what you think the public's opinion is.
I think the traveling public much rather have a pilot that loves his job and isn't disgruntled then someone that looks like the cover of the uniform company's catalog but is only there for the paycheck and counting down the days till he's out of there.
That however is my opinion. Some of you guys spew opinions around here like they are facts which they are not. Unless you can post scientific and unbiased research on what the traveling public views as safe and/or professional, all you are providing are your views on what you think the public's opinion is.
E_Dawg
Moderator
As a very young looking dude, I do notice my fair share of 'double takes' from some of the boarding pax. But to me it's less professional to NOT greet the people as they board.
It's really too bad we get a bad rap sometimes, and that the assumption is that younger pilots are less safe. I actually ran into a generic passenger, not on my flight, who flat out asked me how old I was. The question's inappropriate but I don't really have reservations about it, so I told her. Her response was sarcastic "yeah, I feel safe. I'm just glad I brought my helmet with me." (motorcycle helmet - she brought it as a carry on) I nodded, forced a smile and walked off.
Now mind you I've basically had a laser focus on flying for the better part of my life, and it's not exactly like I went straight from kindergarten into a jet. I do my part to look sharp in uniform. But sometimes it can be an uphill battle, when no matter what you do you're still going to get 'comments'.
Besides, my mom told me she doesn't mind me flying airplanes so long as I'm home by dark. Whoops gotta go, Sesame Street's on.
OldTownPilot
Well-Known Member
Mike, Do you guys even have any sort of a uniform? If not, under what authority are you commenting under in a "pilots gotta look purdy" tread? Cause your airplane sure don't
While we (us JCrs) know that the duds don't make the pilot, the public sure thinks so.
I wore my company issued grey hoody yesterday with blue jeans thankyou very much.Mike, Do you guys even have any sort of a uniform? If not, under what authority are you commenting under in a "pilots gotta look purdy" tread? Cause your airplane sure don't
While we (us JCrs) know that the duds don't make the pilot, the public sure thinks so.
Velocipede
New Member
What all this boils down to is your Company's uniform regs. Some require a hat. Some don't. Some make it optional.
Some require a blouse (suit jacket), leather jacket or parka.
Some don't allow long sleeve shirts without some kind of jacket.
The bottom line is: Adhere to your company's regs. Keep your clothes looking sharp. Save the iPod for commuting or those 3 hour "practice" layover out of public sight. Strap your backpack to your roller bag.
Is that too much to ask?
Some require a blouse (suit jacket), leather jacket or parka.
Some don't allow long sleeve shirts without some kind of jacket.
The bottom line is: Adhere to your company's regs. Keep your clothes looking sharp. Save the iPod for commuting or those 3 hour "practice" layover out of public sight. Strap your backpack to your roller bag.
Is that too much to ask?
greaper007
Well-Known Member
As far as Spikey hair is concerned. I don't like because it looks ridiculous in whatever setting you're in. Sorry guys but that style went out with boy bands. Wear it to the bar and you're going to be "that guy." The kind of chick that makes enough money to support your regional lifestyle isn't really going to be into the look either.
I wear my hair at a classic length, it's not long and it's not short. It also happens to be in style right now. Take a look at GQ, you won't see any guys with 1 or 2 blade cuts (unless they're doing the shaved head thing.)
Here's my real gripe with pilot's though. Overweight/Obese pilots. First off I hate to see a pilot that isn't going to make decent bucks because he can't pass his medical past 40. Second IMHO if you're overweight it doesn't matter how impeccable your Uni is, you still look sloppy.
I know it's tough to stay in shape eating airport food and living on the road but you guys just have to do it. It's also extremely "do-able." My Dad is 57 an airline pilot and he still has a 32" waist. It's not genetics, we have plenty of fat people in my family. It's simply because he's done 30 mins of cardio nearly everyday for his entire career. I was an inside kid growing up and he was always on me to work out. I'm glad he did now.
"Stepping off soap box before it breaks"
I wear my hair at a classic length, it's not long and it's not short. It also happens to be in style right now. Take a look at GQ, you won't see any guys with 1 or 2 blade cuts (unless they're doing the shaved head thing.)
Here's my real gripe with pilot's though. Overweight/Obese pilots. First off I hate to see a pilot that isn't going to make decent bucks because he can't pass his medical past 40. Second IMHO if you're overweight it doesn't matter how impeccable your Uni is, you still look sloppy.
I know it's tough to stay in shape eating airport food and living on the road but you guys just have to do it. It's also extremely "do-able." My Dad is 57 an airline pilot and he still has a 32" waist. It's not genetics, we have plenty of fat people in my family. It's simply because he's done 30 mins of cardio nearly everyday for his entire career. I was an inside kid growing up and he was always on me to work out. I'm glad he did now.
"Stepping off soap box before it breaks"
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Now this, oddly, is something I can agree with 100%.
PCL_128, Mike's got a point. Just about everything you pointed out about SWA stems from their corporate culture. That culture and the maverick attitude is what has made them so successful. A success, I might add, that has kept them at the top of a VERY competitive game for decades. Seems to me that what they're doing is working. They might not fit the old Pan Am mold, but somehow I think Herb would be okay with that. I worked there for nearly 3 years. Honestly, I didn't want to leave, but I had to go somewhere to get flight time. They're still in my top two places to work as well. If treating your employees right, sharing the profits with them, providing good health care and paying them well is a cult....pass the Kool-Aid. I sometimes think PCL and NWA can be really stuck up to the point where you can't have fun at work, but now we're getting back into the realm of opinions. You're happy where you are (from what I can tell), and that airline isn't one of my top two. So it works out for both of us since you left a CA spot open here AND you aren't taking up an FO spot at SWA or Delta.
I'd LOVE to do 30 minutes of cardio a day. I do on my days off and on long overnights. If the hotel has them, I'll throw some weights into the mix, too. However, the only cardio I get on 14 hour duty days with 9-10 hours of rest bookending them is walking through the terminal. I have to eat and sleep at some point.
bike21
9-5 Ruins Lives
KLB
Well-Known Member
Thats one thing I love about my gig. There is usually an 8-10 layover during the day. I've got my standard 200 sit ups (broken up into 5 to 7 sets) and 120 pushups (broken up into 2 sets) a day working well for me. I even have time for a light jog (hate it) or a few laps in the swimming pool if I'd like to...
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Which is exactly what I do, thank you very much.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Originally Posted by MFT1Air
Perception is reality. . .if you look like a bum and many perceive you as a bum. . .you're bum! Period. . .is it right? Is it wrong? It's reality. If you don't like it, tough. . .deal with it?
Now, help me please?
What is "sub-standard" pay? More importantly, who are you comparing pilot's pay to for you to consider it sub-standard?
Phenomenology is a crock, and your statement is bunk. If you'd like a further explanation of why, shoot me a PM and I'll give you some texts you can read on the matter so you too can have the correct answer to the question, "If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it..."