PSA Street Captains?

Screaming_Emu said:
Sorry if I take being able to pay my mortgage seriously. From what I understand, this is hardly set in stone. This isn't a street captain position but rather the POSSIBILITY to hold captain right out of class. I'm still looking into details, but right now I'm not going to risk my financial stability on abother regional airline.

Adulthood isn't a damn game.
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While you've been sitting on your butt hundreds of guys have gotten hired and put into upgrade class.

The longer you "look into details" the worse off you're going to be. At some point (soon) the opportunity will have passed you by, and you wind up a 10 year FO at a shrinking airline bitter at the industry.
 
Trip7 said:
Goodness, some of you could have a pot of gold placed 100 yards away, and you'd make an excuse that you don't want to risk tripping and breaking your neck on the walk to get it.
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You wouldn't understand low pay fatigue. Yes you were an FO at ASA for a long time but you made substantially more than me in the same time frame. Timing is an interesting thing. Averaging less than $25k a year for my entire career is an interesting thing as well.

I wont do anything without a guarantee anymore. Just not worth my time. Aviation a fickle industry and 2 years down the road I could easily be in the same position at PSA, PDT, TSA or Mesa as I am at XJT. Stagnation nation. It can happen with a flow, just ask the Envoy guys.

I fully intend to make sure my next job has a paycheck that matches the name on the side of the plane. This rat race had gotten old.
 
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wheelsup said:
While you've been sitting on your butt hundreds of guys have gotten hired and put into upgrade class. The longer you "look into details" the worse off you're going to be. At some point (soon) the opportunity will have passed you by, and you wind up a 10 year FO at a shrinking airline bitter at the industry.
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That's a bit harsh. I mean, I don't disagree, but even I wouldn't be that much of a dick about it. :)
 
wheelsup said:
While you've been sitting on your butt hundreds of guys have gotten hired and put into upgrade class.

The longer you "look into details" the worse off you're going to be. At some point (soon) the opportunity will have passed you by, and you wind up a 10 year FO at a shrinking airline bitter at the industry.
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I'd reread that and consider how you are coming across. @Screaming_Emu has not just "been sitting on his butt". He's had some bad timing and bad luck and maybe has not taken as many risks as some but he's not lazy.
 
wheelsup said:
While you've been sitting on your butt hundreds of guys have gotten hired and put into upgrade class.

The longer you "look into details" the worse off you're going to be. At some point (soon) the opportunity will have passed you by, and you wind up a 10 year FO at a shrinking airline bitter at the industry.
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There is such thing as a bad move. Right now the only thing lacking from my current situation is that im not building PIC time. I've been working all day today, but at this point it appears I'd be trading almost all of my QOL for the same take home pay in exchange for PIC.

I'm researching every option out there. This is a step in the right direction, but I'm not sure it's the right move for me.
 
@Screaming_Emu do you credit 100+ hours a month? I don't know much about this as it was just announced. But some very quick calculations - based on pay rates and min guarantee (I know there's more to pay then that and more to the job such as QOL as you said) - you would make the equivalent of 8 year FO pay working 100 hours a month as a 1st year captain making min guarantee.
 
B767 said:
@Screaming_Emu do you credit 100+ hours a month? I don't know much about this as it was just announced. But some very quick calculations - based on pay rates and min guarantee (I know there's more to pay then that and more to the job such as QOL as you said) - you would make the equivalent of 8 year FO pay working 100 hours a month as a 1st year captain making min guarantee.
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Yup. Pretty much every month. It would be nice to work less for even the same amount of money, but being junior on reserve that wouldn't equal more time off.
 
Making lateral moves is hardly a pot of gold and there are considerations that each person must make. I knew guys who went from the left seat of a CRJ to Midway for a shot at a 737 type rating... and wound up in the right seat of a Midway CRJ; stranded at an airport with no way to get home on 9/12: then back to our company, but in the right seat and at the bottom of the list again.
Personally the speed of upgrades along with the experience level of some instructors at these companies has me pretty worried. I won't put my family on some of the feeders right now.
 
Are the current FOs at PSA that aren't upgrading due to lack of SIC time going to be senior to me when they upgrade?
 
Wasn't there a bunch of PSA bashing lately? A lot of bad mouthing about a certain vote?

How times change...

Back on point. It's been said before, but it's spot on: everybody's situation is different. I've thought about going back to PSA, but commuting blows. For many bases it's 2-legger. Double blow. The music could stop in 6 months and then what? They hired like gangbusters in 08 and then fired or furloughed hundreds. For me QOL is ranked higher than pay, but that's me, and tooling around in a KA works. I'm not getting jet time, or really much flying time at all, but the pay and schedule are pretty good.

Everybody has to decide for him/herself what's best.
 
Blackhawk said:
Personally the speed of upgrades along with the experience level of some instructors at these companies has me pretty worried. I won't put my family on some of the feeders right now.
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I ride up front a lot on PSA. 99% of the guys are good. But I legit thought I was going to die a few weeks ago. It was bad. But I'm alive so everything is cool!
 
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