PSA CRJ-700 AA midair collision

[ERfly]

I guess I was under the impression it’s an aviation forum that allows discussion of aviation things.

Discussion? Yes.

What you do? Not so much.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Discussion? Yes.

What you do? Not so much.

I do discuss. And question currebtnn B procedures / rules in place. And fair questioning, considering 67 people are dead in the worst Pax 121 accident in 16 yrs.

 

[derg]

I do discuss. And question currebtnn B procedures / rules in place. And fair questioning, considering 67 people are dead in the worst Pax 121 accident in 16 yrs.

Self awareness, emotional intelligence, even now.

Reread your previous statement.

 

[Murdoughnut]

New York Times article, sans paywall ...

https://archive.is/23Uv1

 

[averettpilot]

Apparently everyone sees this as “new information” and is drawing the conclusion that the terrible DEI hire deliberately collided with the airliner. I absolutely hate the media.

 

[GroundPilot]

My coworker told me that there was some new info that the blackhawk had a voice recorder and the CWO said something like "I think they want us to go left for traffic"

If I can find a source I'll post it

 

[NovemberEcho]

My coworker told me that there was some new info that the blackhawk had a voice recorder and the CWO said something like "I think they want us to go left for traffic"

If I can find a source I'll post it

From the article

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.
He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.
Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.
She did not turn left.

 

[MikeD]

From the article

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.
He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.
Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.
She did not turn left.

The lucky thing was that this particular L-model Hawk had a CVR. The majority of these models and earlier models, do not.

What isn’t revealed (yet) is an analysis, based on the CVR, on what might have been the mental workload at the time of the pilot flying, possibly expressed in response(s), or lack of responses, to the IP in the minutes prior to this 15-second to impact point. Regardless, as PIC, the IP is ultimately responsible for the safety of the training flight. Many training accidents have, and will continue to have, the causal factor of “IP/CFI failed to intervene in a timely manner to prevent…..”