Pilots and Tattoos

I think everyone is entitled to their own oppinions for sure. There is really no way to explain why one would have or want a tattoo to someone that does not share the same oppinion in the matter. The same is applied to so many other things, it is what makes this country diverse.

The bottom line is that a tattoo was my choice and it was absolutely not to look cool or feel cool which is at the bottom of my personal agenda. I stated my reasons for the two tattoos which i currently have in my earlier post and i completely stand behind them in any argument. It is my body and i am very passionate about my decision.

On the other hand, i know how critical the world can be especially when it comes to appearance, so i chose very wisely where these tattoos would go on my body, unless tanktops and tightie whities become the uniform of the day for any corporation or outfit which i choose to fly for then there will be no way to ever know that i even have them. As a matter of a fact i cant even remember the last person i even showed them to or has even seen them. They are for me and for the memory of my fallen friend and no one else.

"I just find it the most unattractive, unsophisticated and primative thing someone can do - it is like a man made rash, or skin blemish."

I Money- I feel this is a very shallow statement to make on your behalf and i counter this with, I would not want to associate myself with someone who has this kind of one sided narrow view of another person, especially if we are talking about a tattoo that is not even visible. If you met me, i would be willing to bet that you may never know i had a tattoo and by your statement you are saying that if and when you found out about it you would feel that the mere fact of ink on my body brings discredit to myself and all that i stand for.

I dont have a problem with your oppinion because everyone is entitled to their own oppinions i just think that you need to work on how you word things and how you come across to others. You only make a first impression once and if you would be so bold as to make the statements you have made in regards to tattoos i dont even want to know your views on some other subjects.

I guess that is my rant..this thread will go on for days i am sure. But be assured i am not bashing anyones oppinion, just standing up for what i believe in. I do agree that conformity is paramount in todays corporate society, i mean hell, i am in the Marines..i do not want to hear one person say that i can not conform to regulations.

Just remember, it is me and my brothers and fathers and grandfathers of the past putting our lives on the line day after day while i sit here in the middle of Iraq and while our forfathers fought in the trenches that give you the right and freedom to come on these forums and make your one sided statements about a persons worth simply due to the ink on their body.
 
ChinookDriver said:
Obviously if you have no interest in them, they won't be cool to you. There are plenty of people out there who aren't kids, who know exactly why they want to get a tattoo; and whose reasons don't fall into the "it's just cool, old man!" category.

Where some might think of it is a permenant scar on the skin, a blemish, or whatever, others think of it as art.
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Agree 100%. I have mine because I love the art not because I thought it was cool ect. It took me a long time to decide to get mine (years). Do I regret it? Nope. Has it stopped me from getting a good job or a promotion at a current job? Nope. The way I see it is that tattoos are an aquired taste, either you like them or you dont. It is important to understand the negative aspect that might come with getting one and the dirty looks you get from time to time and that was on my mind a lot. However it is not something that reflects my personality in any way,shape or form. It is simply an expression of my prefered taste and nothing more. I clean up very well when I need to :) .
 
Killtron2000 said:
You ask anyone who got a tattoo "did you get that to fit in?" and of course they will deny it.
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Which reminds me, about every old man that I've ever seen with a bunch of tattoos that I've actually talked to advised against it. Hell, even Ozzy doesn't want his kids getting them, and he's OZZY FRIGGIN' OSBOURNE!!!!
 
You make it sound that if you have a tattoo that I have no time for you, which is incorrect!! Yes I do not like them, I find them physically repulsive, but I think it is more along the lines of belief. Much like a vegeterian might choose to not date someone who eats meat, because they find it offensive, I feel the same ways about tattoos.
 
I_Money said:
You make it sound that if you have a tattoo that I have no time for you, which is incorrect!! Yes I do not like them, I find them physically repulsive, but I think it is more along the lines of belief. Much like a vegeterian might choose to not date someone who eats meat, because they find it offensive, I feel the same ways about tattoos.
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Well I can respect that you would never date a chick with a tattoo(s) but my beef is how do you rate someone applying for a job or a promotion who has visible tattoos no matter how small they might be? Are you professional or do you let your bias affect your decsion?

Lastly..how do you feel about peircings?
 
Killtron2000 said:
That is a serious question. In my experience the people I have known that have tattoos or unusual piercings have below average intelligence. I honestly would not trust those people with a 500 dollar car.
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I have a college degree. I am an Army officer.

I have two tattoos.

My wife has a Master's degree. She has several published stories.

She has two tatoos. And they're hot.

I know lots of well educated people who are very intelligent.

Many of them have tattoos.

Both my wife and I got our tattoos for personal and individual reasons. We did not get them because of peer pressure or because it's a fad.

Now, this might sound like I'm "denying" I did it to fit in (where?), but you can make your own judgment on that.
 
Killtron2000 said:
What's unprofessional about not hiring/promoting someone with a visible tattoo? They are likely to be an idiot.
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Would Jesus not hire someone because they have a tattoo? Sometimes I gotta get down and use your own medicine against you!
 
Killtron2000 said:
What's unprofessional about not hiring/promoting someone with a visible tattoo? They are likely to be an idiot.
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Are you really putting this much energy into judging an entire PERSON based on whether they color a section of their skin?

And - I'm genuinely curious - are you this selective when it comes to your friends?

"Before you can be my friend, you must answer these questions three:

1. Are you a conservative or a "libural"?

2. Do you live in a big city?

3. Do you have a tattoo? "

(Of course, you should be able to figure the answer to number three based on any intelligence - or lack thereof - you glean from conversation. And if they live in a city. And if they're a "libural.")
 
ChinookDriver said:
I have a college degree. I am an Army officer.

I have two tattoos.

My wife has a Master's degree. She has several published stories.

She has two tatoos. And they're hot.

I know lots of well educated people who are very intelligent.

Many of them have tattoos.

Both my wife and I got our tattoos for personal and individual reasons. We did not get them because of peer pressure or because it's a fad.

Now, this might sound like I'm "denying" I did it to fit in (where?), but you can make your own judgment on that.
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2 example of smart people who got tattoos doesn't prove anything. I said on average people with tattoos are dumber then people without them. I am going to stomp this out before it gets going. I did NOT say any of the following.

Every/most dumb people have a tattoo
No smart person has a tattoo
Anyone who has a tattoo did it to fit in
Only dumb people have tattoos


Don't try to imply I said any of those things. I was simply saying that the average person sporting a tattoo has below average intelligence. That has been my experience and I'm 99% sure if there was an independent survey done it would confirm what I said.


But I will say this, almost anyone who has a tattoo will deny they did it to fit in when that is most likely the reason.

 
Killtron2000 said:
That is a serious question. In my experience the people I have known that have tattoos or unusual piercings have below average intelligence. I honestly would not trust those people with a 500 dollar car.
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You're talkin' outta your butt son.
 
Tattoos are fashion accessories - if they can be seen it would be like them walking into my office, sporting some bling around their neck, or a baseball cap on sideways - that is not acceptable for many professional positions.
 
I am sure if you took a random sample of Harvard, YALE, UPenn Students, and a group of UCLA, OSU students the later would have significantly more tattoos!!
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Would Jesus not hire someone because they have a tattoo? Sometimes I gotta get down and use your own medicine against you!
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I'm not a Christian. I don't care what Jesus would have done. But if you want to ask me about it in religious terms I would say I think tattoos are indulgent and self destructive and that would be a satanic characteristic.
 
ChinookDriver said:
Are you really putting this much energy into judging an entire PERSON based on whether they color a section of their skin?

And - I'm genuinely curious - are you this selective when it comes to your friends?

"Before you can be my friend, you must answer these questions three:

1. Are you a conservative or a "libural"?

2. Do you live in a big city?

3. Do you have a tattoo? "

(Of course, you should be able to figure the answer to number three based on any intelligence - or lack thereof - you glean from conversation. And if they live in a city. And if they're a "libural.")
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In general I don't get along with liberals, city dwellers or people who have tattoos. Not because of those things alone but because of the attitudes those things are usually associated with. So it has nothing to do with the presence of ink under their skin I just have to wonder what kind of person would put it there.
 
If you wanted to make an accurate statistic you would have to correlate it to their GPA's. Maybe at Harvard you wouldn't find a significant difference but go to every college campus and take a survey and I think there would be a gap between students with tattoos and students without them.
 
John Herreshoff said:
You're still talking straight outta your butt, kid.
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I said it was a guess, to my knowledge there hasn't been any survey like that done. All I really know is that in school the kids I knew who had less then a 2.0 usually had some kind of body modification or wanted it.
 
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