Pilot arrested with gun in his bag (aka why KCM will be going away)

derg said:
Way too friendly.

If you kick someone’s ass strong and hard, and people see, they’ll take security far more seriously.

You‘re carrying a weapon with deadly results. Treat it more seriously than “Yuk yuk, left mah NINE in my bag, I’ll drop it off in my car then come thru KCM in another 20 minutes”.
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The whole affair has “first trip off OE” vibes to me too, so a perfect example of someone to crucify (or, an example of why you should at least pay some attention in IQ).
 
killbilly said:
In many places it’s not 3 minutes. There are outstations I’ve been to regularly that don’t have KCM and even with going to front of the line take way WAY longer to clear security than it reasonably should.

This is a failing of TSA staffing, to be sure, but their problems become our problems and it’s not just 3 minutes.
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Seattle is awful. It's also constantly changing. So it's never the same. It takes probably an extra 10 minutes at least to complete a screening. I've been yelled at by TSA agents and had to speak with a supervisor.

The entire process is constantly changing and there are a lot of unexpected processes and requirements. Each time the line is different. Each time I'm required to push past passengers waiting in line.

Frankly it is awful.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
Seattle is awful. It's also constantly changing. So it's never the same. It takes probably an extra 10 minutes at least to complete a screening. I've been yelled at by TSA agents and had to speak with a supervisor.

The entire process is constantly changing and there are a lot of unexpected processes and requirements. Each time the line is different. Each time I'm required to push past passengers waiting in line.

Frankly it is awful.
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Yeah, our TSA is a disaster, let alone the revolving closures of various sky bridges and entry points from the curb to the security checkpoints. I'll say that all the times recently when I've come in and thought "OMG I hope I don't get randomed" (as I look at a sea of people in their lines) I haven't been. Actually it's been a remarkable amount of time since I have been randomed anywhere.
 
bimmerphile said:
i wouldn’t mind the randoms as much if it werent for the recent proliferation of these new ‘analogic’ (don’t ask me how that passed marketing QC) xray machines

they’re slower than smell and there’s nothing like 10 people crowded next to the roller belt watching one bag (PUT EVERYTHING IN A BIN) sit in the Cone of Confusion for 30 seconds before the computer decides to ship it down the belt or send it for additional screening.
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My bag was “too heavy” for the Analogic machine in ATL. No issue with any of the other airports, but after 25 minutes they had to bring me to an old machine. It was sad.
 
The concept of not knowing if you have a gun on you is very weird to me. I can't say I've ever once in my life thought, "Whoops, there's a gun in here lulz". Whenever a gun leaves the nest, I'm acutely aware of it until it is back where it belongs. I get complacency...but not with guns. Because guns.

I also can't even say I've ever been with a gun-nut kind of friend who had a gun-where-it-shouldn't-be surprise even tho some of them seem to base their whole personalities around guns. A friend used to be the tour manager for Tony Tony Tony back in the day and forgot a pistol in his bag at IAH. As back then he was carrying huge amounts of cash all the time and the previous TM was shot and killed in a robbery, he stayed strapped and forgot. He ended up spending a career in ramp ops at UA (CO prior) because he had to fly to IAH for probation-related stuff every so often into the early 2010s. And this is happened back when Tony Tony Tony was touring. And in Texas, as a non-airline\airport employee. MSP is not Texas, it is 2023, KCM is already in public hot water, and he has a freggin pilot uniform mug shot across the interweb.

He's gonna have a bad time.

There is a huge difference in my book between what happened here and the few times in some alternate universe where a mystery bag was left in a bathroom and quietly reunited with the pilot owner by an empathetic fellow moron.
 
I don't think this kid "forgot" he was carrying. I don't think he was trying to do anything, but thanks to bin laden, I'd (choking on my own vomit) suggest that the TSA probably shouldn't be making judgement calls on who trying to bring a firearm through "didn't really mean it"
 
///AMG said:
Yeah, our TSA is a disaster, let alone the revolving closures of various sky bridges and entry points from the curb to the security checkpoints. I'll say that all the times recently when I've come in and thought "OMG I hope I don't get randomed" (as I look at a sea of people in their lines) I haven't been. Actually it's been a remarkable amount of time since I have been randomed anywhere.
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It’s crazy how bad the POS is as well. You touched on the closures to entry points but add in the employee bus and the train delays. Getting to work becomes a complete nightmare.

Don’t forget 2 of 3 lanes of 90 being closed during the summer. 405 closing for entire weekends including the random unscheduled closure and the icing on the cake, the bridge connecting the employee lot to the airport being closed all of the fall.


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///AMG said:
I don't think this kid "forgot" he was carrying. I don't think he was trying to do anything, but thanks to bin laden, I'd (choking on my own vomit) suggest that the TSA probably shouldn't be making judgement calls on who trying to bring a firearm through "didn't really mean it"
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I think the kid made a stupid choice to carry a gun along for his trip just in case he had a •ed up on shrooms jumpseater try to pull the fire handles or he had a moronic FFDO captain threaten to shoot him. Maybe he started imagining other crazy scenarios and thought showing up to work strapped was a good idea.
 
guywhoflies said:
I think the kid made a stupid choice to carry a gun along for his trip just in case he had a •ed up on shrooms jumpseater try to pull the fire handles or he had a moronic FFDO captain threaten to shoot him. Maybe he started imagining other crazy scenarios and thought showing up to work strapped was a good idea.
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Everywhere I’ve worked, from universities to airlines (including his!) to biotech firms to pumping fuel and “ick” from lavatory tanks, has rather unambiguously prohibited you from carrying a deadly or dangerous weapon to work.

Sometimes the answer is the person getting the discipline (I almost said “grievant,” but he won’t be one of those) is an idiot and a bad worker, and the best result is the steering of a stop-motion train wreck.
 
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