Once a Captain...

surreal1221 said:
I'd much rather have my company a little short staffed to where guys are going over MMG on reserve, and the building of lines are having to exceed an 85 hour average instead of sending people to the street and displacing captains.

That's also another damn incentive to having the company utilizing a good staffing forecast. Lines can be built to 75 hours, and no reserve pilot exceeding MMG.

That to me is a much better option then seeing furloughs and displacements.

Minimum days off are still in the contract, and seniority will obviously dictate who has the better schedules and what not. . .but at least people have jobs.
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Did I mention things like loading up your schedule on the back end of your vacation (as in you're on vacation for a week, but the last three week you fly 87 hours and have like 6 days off)? The company wants to make the min line value 85 and the max build line value in PBS 105 so they can staff with fewer people. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it with the "short staff vs furlough." With a min day off number of 10, there's a lot of room for abuse.
 
Thankfully we don't have PBS. . .and further. . .I haven't heard ONE pilot here say anything that would indicate that they, or their union representatives would approve such a screwed up system.

Nevertheless. . .sure. . .I might just get it.

But once again - I personally would rather see guys going over MMG on reserve, and our company being short staffed - then kicking guys to the curb and having displacement bids.

That's wishful thinking though, as obviously that little theory won't ever come into play. But to me, if it means less guys out on the street - the better.
 
Have any of you young'ns read "Fate is the Hunter," or is that too "old school" for regional guys nowadays? ;) Ernie Gann talks about this subject early in the book. Back in his day at American, furloughs and downgrades took place, and it was tradition for Captains that were displaced to the right seat to keep their stripes because they earned them. That tradition has faded away over the years, but I think we should stick to it.

stoki said:
Lots of people wear the hat. It looks good with the blazer.
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:yeahthat: You should post more often. :)

BobDDuck said:
That's what happens when you set up a seniority list within a seniority list that is based off of an interview. I've had a major issue with how charter operations were set up over there.
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Agreed. That was one of the very few problems I saw with the XJT agreement. Pilots should never have to interview for a position within their own airline unless it's a management pilot position.
 
surreal1221 said:
I just have a fundamental issue with all airline management.
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That's an understatement. :)

I don't know if you've been in the airline industry long enough to have spent much time at a severely understaffed company, but it *really* sucks. It's potentially the biggest factor in your quality of life. I think a lot of companies do a crappy and reactionary job of planning their staffing needs, but it doesn't seem fair to bitch about them being understaffed (I sure have) and then complain when properly staffed companies have to furlough because oil goes nuts.
 
The context in this thread has completely gone over my head.

Overrides, seniority within seniority lists, stripes, hats, leather jackets, etc, is way to much for me to process.
 
Seggy said:
The context in this thread has completely gone over my head.

Overrides, seniority within seniority lists, stripes, hats, leather jackets, etc, is way to much for me to process.
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Don't you worry, my young brother . . . it'll come out in the Cliff Notes:D
 
Seggy said:
The context in this thread has completely gone over my head.

Overrides, seniority within seniority lists, stripes, hats, leather jackets, etc, is way to much for me to process.
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Here's a summary, (regional) pilots will find a way to bitch about anything and everything. Too many crews, not enough crews, high seniority, low seniority, #### they're even arguing about which stripes to wear to work. I'm sorry but some folks have COMPLETELY lost sight of what flying is all about.

Sad but at least it gives the OOTSK crowd something to chuckle at.
 
mikecweb said:
Here's a summary, (regional) pilots will find a way to bitch about anything and everything. Too many crews, not enough crews, high seniority, low seniority, #### they're even arguing about which stripes to wear to work. I'm sorry but some folks have COMPLETELY lost sight of what flying is all about.

Sad but at least it gives the OOTSK crowd something to chuckle at.
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:yeahthat:
You should hear some of the complaints from the guys I fly with on the q400. It's pretty funny compared to what I'm used to on the 1900.
 
Listen, the hat is a symbol, not unlike the crown or scepter is for a King.

The hat tells people without asking who has the authority on the airplane. Sorry to tell you this, but most of you clowns who refuse to wear your hat and think you're cool just look like a bunch of male F/As.

Or and Jerry Seinfeld says, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

Now, its off to the Black Rose for an adult beverage....
 
Velocipede said:
Listen, the hat is a symbol, not unlike the crown or scepter is for a King.

The hat tells people without asking who has the authority on the airplane. Sorry to tell you this, but most of you clowns who refuse to wear your hat and think you're cool just look like a bunch of male F/As.

Or and Jerry Seinfeld says, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

Now, its off to the Black Rose for an adult beverage....
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OUCH.....that hurts...but sometimes the truth does! ;)

If you REALLY want to stand out in the crowd, you'd wear the hat. Years ago, all pilots did and wore them proudly. Nowadays, with the "casualization" of the country, not many do. And yes, I know about the summer uniform regs. :)
 
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