Oh regional pilots....

Chick's dig the blazer mang... ;)

We have this awesome neoprene jacket that we can wear as our uniform jacket, but the FOM says you've gotta have your hat to wear it...stupid rules! Jacket is lighter/easier packed than the blazer or leather, it's fleece lined and water proof...so I guess I'm stuck with the stupid hat from here on out.

You have a picture of that somewhere? I've often thought something like that would be spectacular. I usually have that thought while waiting outside for the much delayed hotel shuttle while freezing my butt off in a blazer/trenchcoat.
 
We have this awesome neoprene jacket that we can wear as our uniform jacket, but the FOM says you've gotta have your hat to wear it...stupid rules! Jacket is lighter/easier packed than the blazer or leather, it's fleece lined and water proof...so I guess I'm stuck with the stupid hat from here on out.

Reminds me of the standard-issue Cape Air winter jacket. It's made out of Nomex and Kevlar so you don't get burned as bad if you catch fire.

All you can say to that is "Oh, good." :)
 
You have a picture of that somewhere? I've often thought something like that would be spectacular. I usually have that thought while waiting outside for the much delayed hotel shuttle while freezing my butt off in a blazer/trenchcoat.

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This is the Alaska pilot's one, theirs has two holes for their wings, where as ours has Horizon Air and our wings embroidered on the left breast. I think we pay like $35-40 for them at uniforms and they're just awesome.
 
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This is the Alaska pilot's one, theirs has two holes for their wings, where as ours has Horizon Air and our wings embroidered on the left breast. I think we pay like $35-40 for them at uniforms and they're just awesome.

Freakin....awesome. Much more practical than the blazer or trench coat. I almost want to leave ASA and come to Horizon now
 
I don't get what is the big deal about a backpack and why it's such a hot button issue. Why do people care if someone is using one?

Just curious. Whats wrong with a backpack? Earbuds, spiked hair, sun glasses, I get it. But a backpack? Whats the rub?

Because you should look like a professional pilot, not a 5th grader running to home room.

I wear a leather jacket, no hat, and I have a goatee. I must look like a wreck. :)

A goatee? Please tell me you aren't flying passengers.
 
First and foremost, there are plenty of regional pilots that take pride in their uniform and look like true professionals.

For the others, there are a lot of factors at play here:

- Low hiring standards that don't focus on interview appearance, leadership, and professionalism. I personally think the receptionists should "observe and report" on how the interviewees conducted themselves in the waiting area: there's a perfect sneak peak of what your future pilot is going to look like hanging out by the gate.
- Cultural shift, as mentioned before.
- Lack of instilling professionalism in INDOC: new-hires need to be directly told that they're expected to maintain a proper uniform, and it needs to come from someone in pro stands or another union committee (membership, etc.). A fellow line pilot needs to tell the new guys, not an instructor.
- Although not the company's responsibility, making shoe-shine, lint rollers, and even an ironing board readily available in the crew room could help crew members out. Even the union could make these supplies available.


All the talk of self-policing aside, I expect the company to lead on this as well (as Firebird mentioned). There's nothing like spending 30 minutes on your uniform the night before a trip only to sit in a cockpit seat with brown stains and mounds of dust on the CB panel.


Professionalism is so much more than just a hat, too. I personally hated them (but I did wear it), and saw plenty of pilots that were in complete compliance with our uniform policy that still looked a bit disheveled. Unions and management need to work together to educate and empower employees to look the part. Whether it be an updated jacket (nice, SurferLucas) or a lecture in indoc, something's got to give.
 
Leather jackets are nice as long as the rest of the uniform follows. There is something about having the crisp blazer and pants, with the nicely fresh white aviator shirt that I like more though. Plus for a regional guy, he'd have to pay a good 400 bucks to get one, or have it payroll deducted..
 
Leather jackets are nice as long as the rest of the uniform follows. There is something about having the crisp blazer and pants, with the nicely fresh white aviator shirt that I like more though. Plus for a regional guy, he'd have to pay a good 400 bucks to get one, or have it payroll deducted..

Agreed, the color/style has to match or it looks tacky. Of course in Hawai'i I can't think of many uses for a leather jacket. Maybe on top of Mauna Kea or Mauna Loa? :cool:
 
You'd be surprised. The inter island guys actually don't even wear the blazer or tie, but they are required to wear the hat. I don't blame them.
 
My favorite are the guys who turn their epaulets inside out so that they are just black bars with no rank.
 
How do sweat pants measure up to the standards of the uniform police? I recently flew with a captain who made it through an entire through stop in Asia with sweat pants & slippers topped off with a perfectly crisp, pressed, 4-striped pilot shirt. That's when you know you've got a great crew.
 
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