Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Bisexual relates to having attraction to both sexes. Non binary is about not having an association with either gender.
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Bisexual relates to having attraction to both sexes. Non binary is about not having an association with either gender.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
This.
fholbert
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I’ve never understood why a female is attracted to a male. Compared to a female we sure are ugly. We dress like slobs, if our socks match we did good. We have hair on our butts. We are proud of noises made when gas escapes our body. Put a man in yoga pants and what is there to like?
Thank god, most females are easily fooled.
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Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I can understand Bi.
Still don’t get non-binary. What does it mean not have an association? As in, one doesn’t find either gender sexually attractive?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Ok I guess I now understand asexual (though if you don’t find other people sexually attractive, what exactly do you hump with).
Still not understanding non-binary. It’s a mental state in which you refuse any accepted form of gender?
zmiller4
Well-Known Member
Nope, I don’t think you do understand “asexual”.
In terms you do seem to understand it’s the lack of desire to “hump with” anyone.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Another question. I’ve done Medlink patches. These are Doctors who will help us but also take the liability off the airline’s hands. They WILL ask both age and sex, whether male or female.
Do you really expect me to answer X or U to a Medlink doctor? Or, can a binary person say “I don’t agree with it, but if you must know, I was born a male.”
Do you really expect me to answer X or U to a Medlink doctor? Or, can a binary person say “I don’t agree with it, but if you must know, I was born a male.”
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I’m sorry, I don’t think I can buy that. ANY animal has an evolutionary instinctive “hump” mode. It’s why species still exist today.
zmiller4
Well-Known Member
And this is my moment of zen for the day.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Ok, fine, let’s say I buy that. That some person is asexual and literally has no sexual drive towards any human being.
Still don’t understand non-binary. What do they find attraction to? A male, female, either or, none? Or is it just about letters only? Cause I don’t get it.
And I was sipping the Knob Creek (Maple Flavor) when I was posting....Yeah, I'd had way too much wine for the words to come out good in my original post
zmiller4
Well-Known Member
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
So what’s non-binary? “No association to a gender” what does that mean?
I know for gays, for example, it’s not a choice. They were wired (probably from birth) and find only a certain way to be sexually attracted - same sex. I get that.
What about non-binary? Ok, it’s not about sexuality. It’s about gender. I hear you.
But what?
Is this literally only about not wanting to be a M or a F because you disagree with those letters?
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
I appreciate that you are actually trying to gain understanding on this.
Separate attraction to others from identity of self. One's gender is a self thing, not a attraction to others thing. A non binary person could be attracted to males or females or both or neither. It has nothing to do with that. It's how they view their own gender status.
It's similar to how some people who come to the US from another country view themselves as a US citizen and some view themselves as a citizen of where they came from. Non binary would be the one that doesn't identify as either a US citizen or a citizen of where they came from, but rather something else.
Jimmy_Norton
Well-Known Member
Yes, I would pick a different one because I really don't give a crap. I identify as human. If someone's only source of pride is which box they check when they book an airline ticket, then I feel really bad for them.
Exactly. If I owned the TSA and an airline, my choices for gender when booking a ticket are going to be "I don't care" and "Seriously, I don't care, just please don't punch a flight attendant".
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
@Cherokee_Cruiser
My 2nd cousin Joe has aspergers/high functioning autism. Lil' dude is smart, like super f-ing smart, probably like somewhere between 130-150 IQ, if I had to guess. He's currently in DFW at university studying finance. He's 19 and graduates in May, he entered university as a junior due to AP courses he took in high school. I bring all that up to juxtapose his personal/social life. He's a rock. He doesn't get social clues. AT ALL.
At Christmas dinner he expressed his frustration and social pressure with being forced to be social at university. By family, friends and his continued frustration females that show interest. He says that being social is too much of a headache, that he doesn't understand social interaction. Also that girls are annoying and he's not really interested. His roommates continue to try to push him to get out of the apartment and engage in acceptable social behaviors for his age, but he's just not interested and would rather just be left alone. To be alone. He told us all that his two roommates told him that girl two apartments down likes him. From what he told me and the cues she was repeatedly giving him, he should have easily seen it. She was calling him/texting all the time. Popping up at his apartment unexpected for him. You know showing interest, he couldn't see it.
Apparently they went and saw the new Spiderman movie and she wanted to snuggle and touch his groin and she wanted him to touch hers. His words. He said that he was grossed out by the idea. He said he got pissed off at her because he went to the movies to watch a movie and she wouldn't stfu and leave him alone and all she wanted was to get to 3rd base. Apparently he ignored her the whole movie and she was pissed. Like pissed! After the movie she I guess gave him a second chance and invited him into her apartment and he promptly her told her. "No, what would we do? Talk? We went to dinner, watched a movie. The night was good, but it was over. Goodnight." He went back to his apartment and played Nintendo switch.
I was like WTF. She was giving it to you on a stick. He didn't see it. But everyone else in attendance who was older, and even our cousin Damien who's in middle school and Joe's brother Carl who's a high school junior, and his sister Asia who's in middle school was like, bro. Bro... bro! Really, bro!?!?! His dad and mom were just shaking their heads, apparently they're used to those conversations and are frustrated and have given up. He said that the idea of getting naked with another person repulsed him and makes him want to vomit. He said allowing another person to see you nude was a horrifying and disgusting thought, that he couldn't conceive it. Or wrap his mind around the idea of sex, he says that it awkward. He said that he has no interest in sex, he shared that he doesn't even really masturbate all that much, as he doesn't see the rational point. Also that it's awkward as well. He says he's not gay, not bi and that he just isn't interested in sex and women, or a boy. Joe is a virgin and he's never had a girlfriend, or a boyfriend. Joe, is asexual.
My 2nd cousin Joe has aspergers/high functioning autism. Lil' dude is smart, like super f-ing smart, probably like somewhere between 130-150 IQ, if I had to guess. He's currently in DFW at university studying finance. He's 19 and graduates in May, he entered university as a junior due to AP courses he took in high school. I bring all that up to juxtapose his personal/social life. He's a rock. He doesn't get social clues. AT ALL.
At Christmas dinner he expressed his frustration and social pressure with being forced to be social at university. By family, friends and his continued frustration females that show interest. He says that being social is too much of a headache, that he doesn't understand social interaction. Also that girls are annoying and he's not really interested. His roommates continue to try to push him to get out of the apartment and engage in acceptable social behaviors for his age, but he's just not interested and would rather just be left alone. To be alone. He told us all that his two roommates told him that girl two apartments down likes him. From what he told me and the cues she was repeatedly giving him, he should have easily seen it. She was calling him/texting all the time. Popping up at his apartment unexpected for him. You know showing interest, he couldn't see it.
Apparently they went and saw the new Spiderman movie and she wanted to snuggle and touch his groin and she wanted him to touch hers. His words. He said that he was grossed out by the idea. He said he got pissed off at her because he went to the movies to watch a movie and she wouldn't stfu and leave him alone and all she wanted was to get to 3rd base. Apparently he ignored her the whole movie and she was pissed. Like pissed! After the movie she I guess gave him a second chance and invited him into her apartment and he promptly her told her. "No, what would we do? Talk? We went to dinner, watched a movie. The night was good, but it was over. Goodnight." He went back to his apartment and played Nintendo switch.
I was like WTF. She was giving it to you on a stick. He didn't see it. But everyone else in attendance who was older, and even our cousin Damien who's in middle school and Joe's brother Carl who's a high school junior, and his sister Asia who's in middle school was like, bro. Bro... bro! Really, bro!?!?! His dad and mom were just shaking their heads, apparently they're used to those conversations and are frustrated and have given up. He said that the idea of getting naked with another person repulsed him and makes him want to vomit. He said allowing another person to see you nude was a horrifying and disgusting thought, that he couldn't conceive it. Or wrap his mind around the idea of sex, he says that it awkward. He said that he has no interest in sex, he shared that he doesn't even really masturbate all that much, as he doesn't see the rational point. Also that it's awkward as well. He says he's not gay, not bi and that he just isn't interested in sex and women, or a boy. Joe is a virgin and he's never had a girlfriend, or a boyfriend. Joe, is asexual.
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🦈💜
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Hi. It’s not about pride. It’s about fears of being denied boarding / entry to the secure side based on id/boarding pass mismatch, whether founded or not.
Transfolk passing through the mm wave scanners will basically always be flagged for secondary screening. It’s one of many reasons I always commute/travel in uniform. This is my experience, and I deal with TSA every day that I work. I advise transgender folk to tell the TSA at the checkpoint that they are transgender male/female/nonbinary, and wish to opt out of the scanner. It makes things simpler. And even then, it's outside of the script and tends to confuse the TSA.
This isn't "a source of pride." People who are male, female, nonbinary, black, hispanic, white, muslim, whatever, almost universally just want to get by, get through the airport, and get to where they're going. I agree with you that the question doesn't need to be asked, but it is, and people aren't free to pick arbitrarily.