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VNAV monitor
MSN > MKE and I have no problem defending my take
Oh SFO tower
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queeno
Ward of the Guberment
What i miss is going to the Mars Cheese Castle and getting a apple kringle , ill tell you those cheese heads know how to eat
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Why avoid and potentially miss a good trip?
If you're going to be an 'issie', I'd entertain myself by making life hell for you!
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Does this sound like the same controller? It kinda does. And telling someone 2 aircraft went around for "unknown reasons" is clearly a coverup for what I assume is her ego.
Yikes
It seems Southwest did exactly what they were supposed to. Not sure at what speed they're moving in real time. But she should have been able to figure out both are going around due to SWA.
The SW pilot is correct, their clearance was stepped on. But the "28R cleared for takeoff" should illicit a "you were blocked, say again for 28R?" by the SWA crew.
Yes? No?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4cewwhcL5c
Yikes
It seems Southwest did exactly what they were supposed to. Not sure at what speed they're moving in real time. But she should have been able to figure out both are going around due to SWA.
The SW pilot is correct, their clearance was stepped on. But the "28R cleared for takeoff" should illicit a "you were blocked, say again for 28R?" by the SWA crew.
Yes? No?
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Maurus
The Great Gazoo
Honestly, if JFK can deal with only operating on the 22s with a single departure runway SFO should be able to do that with the 28s. I know for a fact SFO figured it out for the 19s...
"For unknown reasons"? Is she high?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
You know now that I look at the totality of both the Delta incident and this SWA incident, the problem sounds like the controller.
She needs an attitude check, pronto.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
"So you shouldn't be on the runway" naaaaah girl, you told his ahhhhh to line up on tho on the strip of pavement tho.
She's a really cool person but often gets heated with pilots when she gets stressed out. There is a clip from a few years ago that got pretty popular of her saying "get off the runway 3 times to an AA 767 (which was doing the best they could) and as they clear they sarcastically read back, "We're getting off the runway, getting off the runway, we're off the runway, ground .8". She can also be very cool and joke around when she isn't stressed out, but yeah, heard a lot of facepalm stuff over the years monitoring ground and tower lol. She cleared me for a midfield transition once in a Cessna and then asked why I was East of 101, since I knew how she was I was just like "correcting" and crossed back over instead of reminding her about my clearance, for the reasons demonstrated in this video. She's cool enough to not report a deviation with no loss of separation, but def will bite your head off for complying with an instruction of hers that backfires. Her calling out WN then replying to his "Uh, but you said..." with "I don't need an argument on frequency" is a pretty good summary of her controlling haha. She's still cool tho, some people just aren't the best at their jobs when it gets stressful. Only so much I can say about Pro-Ahoy\Sharkweek controllers when they mess up LOL!
Nah, she's just always right, like the abusive partners I've had.
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Nick
Well-Known Member
The problem here, of course, is that in her particular vocation, competent > cool.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Agreed, but too much nautical nonsense with her over the years to not overlook it on my end. To be fair, this clip is the worst I've ever seen her mess up as someone who watched her work all day many times lol. Typical that she'd get pissy about it tho. AX was the only SFO controller that was just a POS IMO, glad he's gone.
Busy 11PM bank then a reposition calls to go upstream from my ramp to T2 in broken English. AX: "Oh, you're one of THOSE. Great. Do you have anyone else on board who speaks better English?" "Uh, negative sir". (landline rings) "I'M NOT TAKING THIS MEXICAN ALASKA GUY UNTIL MY DEPARTURE BANK IS DONE JUST LETTING YOU KNOW *CLICK*. Meanwhile a jetBlue holds 20 mins for a departure to LGB because ground won't take the AS tug ahead of him and at least bring them up 1 intersection towards T2, so at the 20 min mark when I finally have no inbounds in the traffic jam that'll need the other line, I send jetBlue around to the other spot. Phone rings. AX: "WHY DID YOU BLOCK BOTH LINES, I HAD A PLAN HERE! DO YOUR JOB *CLICK*.
Another time a SkyWest RJ went right towards T3 instead of left towards T1 clearing the 28s when there was the T1 SkyWest ops, and a LH 744 had to slam on the brakes. There was still room for the RJ to make a U-turn at Kilo, but AX still had to say "You must just be the best pilots in the world, nice job".
I'll take the video above over another one of his shifts LOL.
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ChasenSFO
hen teaser
This thread is well past that point. LOL.You should see if she’d log on… for questions.
We’ll totally be friendly!
it’s the internet. We all talk smack, and then the person shows up! Ha!
phill1174
Well-Known Member
Probably a peach to work with also
. Folks like her are why ASAP’s and event reports (whatever your company calls them) are nice. No arguments or anything, just a few mins of typing at the end of the day and send.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Alright, SFO tower is getting out of hand. Not her this time. But I agree with the United rant.
It’s getting ridiculous.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrRGde5J8mo&pp=ygULdmFzYXZpYXRpb24%3D
It’s getting ridiculous.
I'm impressed, and happy, that he had the fuel for all that.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
It’d more “funny” (for us…not for the customers) if he’d said “since you asshats can’t get it right, we’re going to SJC”
