Not a Good Time with NWA Flight Attendant

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flyerone said:
Jello or Mud, that's the real question?

I was thinking more along the lines of pudding

Maybe its just that I'm at UND where being a pilot isn't cool, but I actually avoid having people find out I'm a pilot, especially on an airline. Why you might ask? Cause then you get a billion stupid questions. First one to come is "if something happened to the pilots, could you land the plane?"
 
Oh I loved commuting in the back of the 80s. Nice vibration in the seats, lots of background noise. It was great.

Those do suck, but most of the time I'd kill for a seat in back--the cockpit jumpseat is waaay too tight for me (6'2").

It's pretty awkward, too, when the captain keeps touching my leg reaching for the phone on the back of the center pedestal. Causes a lot of mutual flinching.
 
gurisudenko said:
On Friday night I boarded NWA 107 PHX-MSP, on a 752. I made my way to the seat I was assigned, took one look, and said, "Are you kidding me?" The seat was right next to a big bulging wall, and the seats in front and behind it - couldn't see anything either.

I was wearing a really cool pin that I got from the WAI Conference in Nashville...it's all in rhinestones and it reads, "I <3 FLYING". I pointed at it and explained that I love to fly, not stare at the wall. I also reasoned that there were about 80 people seated in window seats, and one of them probably could care less whether they were able to have an outside view. I maintained a friendly demeanor - I wasn't angry at all, just trying to negotiate as an NWA customer.

I asked the flight attendant if I could possibly trade with someone who may not be bothered by not seeing outside during the flight. She didn't respond very well and seemed irritated. I asked the passengers, "Is anyone here not bothered by this? Raise your hand and maybe we can trade places!" No one raised their hand. A woman boarded the aircraft and took a nearby window seat as I was explaining still that I was bothered and I would like to fix that problem if it were possible. The flight attendant turned around and said, "Why don't you try talking to an angel instead of complaining about where you have to sit?!"

Uh...angel? Huh? That confused me.

"I fly aircraft! I'm used to seeing my surroundings - this is awkward!"

A man yelled, "She's a pilot!"...in an attempt to pursuade someone to work with me.

I ended up trading seats with the lady, all the while being glared at by at least 25% of the passengers.

And I flew the 757-200 sim at NATCO DANGIT...ON ONE ENGINE OUT OF EAGLE COLORADO AND THEN CIRCUMNAVIGATED A THUNDERSTORM!!! And what do these PAX do?! Glare at me. :mad: Sorry, had to say that. I'm sure some of you can sympathize with my mentality at that point.

I felt disrespected by the flight attendant, and as if some of the PAX thought me to be a danger to the flight. Every time I talked to my neighbor, the lady next to him would lean forward and GLARE at me like I was something on the bottom of her shoe. The conversation was about aviation education and outreach..if that matters???

I wanted to tell the NWA Flight Attendant that I felt hurt and disrespected by her attitude toward me. I felt as though I had been judged, and I feel that she did not represent Northwest Airlines very well at all. I should have, especially as a fellow woman in aviation.

*sigh*

I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has been through this. I'm wondering if 737 captains not in uniform have gotten the same treatment. I feel like such a friend to aviation and then to have people already in the industry treat me like that...REALLY HURTS.

You should definitely head on over to airliners.net I can't believe I read a post like that on JC. :(
 
Just because the car veers off the road a little doesn't mean you sell it.

Help steer it back on the pavement.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Just because the car veers off the road a little doesn't mean you sell it.

Help steer it back on the pavement.

You can save her. You have to. Only you have the power to bring her back from the dark side.
 
TheFlyingTurkey said:
4 pages and she still doesn't get it.

Oh, over the years of running the website, I've seen a user or two take years to escape the clutches of "The Dark Side"(tm).
 
AHHH good ole seats 19A or 19F. Yes I have fallen for this a few times on both the 762 and 752. It says clearly "window seat" however fails to mention there is no window. What I do is get up and usually verbally assualt someone with a window seat that has their shade down :) :sarcasm:
 
Sealed your own fate with the "I'm a pilot" comment. That's the quickest way to piss off a flight attendant. Then being persistent/nagging (even nice nagging is a pain in the butt, esp on a full 757) made it even worse. NWA flight attendants do not negotiate... You are in a dictatorship, and they are the sky-nazis. God help you if you ever provoke the wrath of one of them. NO WINDOW FOR YOU! YOU WILL LIKE IT!!! Don't forget the sound of your overnight bag being tossed down the jetbridge and being sent to NRT.


I like having a window seat, but seriously.. it's not the end of the world if you dont have one. Can't see much of anything out those windows anyways. It's not that necessary to your SA as a student pilot to be sitting next to one. ;)
 
And weird, I was in 14F...

I boarded and walked eeeever so slightly diagonally left...to the closet/galley depicted on the seat map

This is getting even fishier....Anyone seen Silent Hill?

:bandit:
 
Chris_Ford said:
"Only with a drink or two in me" will usually shut them up pretty fast.

Chris, I've decided you're a frickin' genius dude, you've said everything I would have said, I would just like to hijack just a little bit.

Your situation wouldn't have called for so much harassment if you had of just left out the "I'm a pilot" part. Nothing screams self-absorbed louder than that.

I've become more quiet about my flying. Just today someone who's kids went to school with me asked what I was up to, I told him just working. It's a little embarassing considering both his kids are in college and so is my little brother who they also went to school with, and he thinks I'm a bum with a high school diploma and a 9 dollar an hour job. But like it or not, someone who doesn't ask specifically what you're doing is going to think you're trying to show off by screaming, I'M A PILOT!

Very good example of this was when I was working a second job at a drive thru daquiri store. Couple drives up and makes an order, I ask for I.D's and the girl in the passenger seat with her flight suit on says, "I don't have mine, but I'm a pilot."

SO? Since when do you have to be 21 to fly a plane?

Point is, she didn't know who she was talking to and she looked like an idiot. Maybe you were talking to the F/A and being overheard by some 5,000 hour pilot who was sitting quietly in his aisle seat thinking, "What's the difference between pilots and God...God doesn't think he's a pilot."
 
gurisudenko said:
And I flew the 757-200 sim at NATCO DANGIT...ON ONE ENGINE OUT OF EAGLE COLORADO AND THEN CIRCUMNAVIGATED A THUNDERSTORM!!! And what do these PAX do?! Glare at me. Sorry, had to say that. I'm sure some of you can sympathize with my mentality at that point.

Maybe some of them hadn't been kept up to date on your sim schedule or the profile. You could print up fliers to hand out next time, just to bring them up to speed or ask the flight attendant if you could use the PA system, they'll really love you then.
 
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