Northwest Overshoot / Cert Action....
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ljg
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Agreed. Be careful out there guys and girls. It only takes one momentary lapse of judgment.
Agreed. Be careful out there guys and girls. It only takes one momentary lapse of judgment.
HeyEng
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Pretty open and close case (as it seems). They were in blatant violation of the policies. They violated FAA regulations. They lied to the employer and probably to the NTSB (just an assumption). Final result: TERMINATION. I saw that the FAA may take action as soon as tomorrow to revoke or suspend the pilot's tickets.
What a smack in the face of all the PROFESSIONAL pilots out there.
As for the engineer thing...good call Mike D...and C141loady...get back there and get me some coffee!!! If we wanted your opinion, we would have asked for it! :laff: Besides, if the pilot's had their laptops out, so would I...looking at porn!
Pretty open and close case (as it seems). They were in blatant violation of the policies. They violated FAA regulations. They lied to the employer and probably to the NTSB (just an assumption). Final result: TERMINATION. I saw that the FAA may take action as soon as tomorrow to revoke or suspend the pilot's tickets.
What a smack in the face of all the PROFESSIONAL pilots out there.
As for the engineer thing...good call Mike D...and C141loady...get back there and get me some coffee!!! If we wanted your opinion, we would have asked for it! :laff: Besides, if the pilot's had their laptops out, so would I...looking at porn!
JoelT
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On the 767 once we pass FL180 the headset comes off and we don't put them back on until decent. No matter how small the headset is they really hurt on long flights.
On the 767 once we pass FL180 the headset comes off and we don't put them back on until decent. No matter how small the headset is they really hurt on long flights.
WestIndian425
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The A320's cockpit is quiet enough to take the headsets off during cruise (based on my experience jumpseating on one a couple of times)
You mean in the cockpit? I doubt DeltaWest has internet on their planes.
The A320's cockpit is quiet enough to take the headsets off during cruise (based on my experience jumpseating on one a couple of times)
LoadMasterC141
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I got some coffee for you. Want cream with it? How about a litte colon blow to sweeten it? Perhaps a 10k chain under your seat cushion? heh.
You been travelling man? I have been telling off-topic Fred jokes again and you haven't caught me this time! :laff:
I got some coffee for you. Want cream with it? How about a litte colon blow to sweeten it? Perhaps a 10k chain under your seat cushion? heh.
You been travelling man? I have been telling off-topic Fred jokes again and you haven't caught me this time! :laff:
WestIndian425
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I would think they could have a wireless card and connect to the internet on the flight even in the cockpit. I thought I read that Delta has added wifi connection to many of their airplanes...
I would think they could have a wireless card and connect to the internet on the flight even in the cockpit. I thought I read that Delta has added wifi connection to many of their airplanes...
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
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No way they were on the internet, Deltawest having wifi? Ha! Maybe if one day after they get audio or video on the domestic fleet, which they don't even have.
DL has wifi on a ton of its planes yes, but NW has no IFE other than magazines on the A319/320, DC-9s, and 757s.
No way they were on the internet, Deltawest having wifi? Ha! Maybe if one day after they get audio or video on the domestic fleet, which they don't even have.
DL has wifi on a ton of its planes yes, but NW has no IFE other than magazines on the A319/320, DC-9s, and 757s.
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http://www.delta.com/traveling_checkin/inflight_services/products/wi-fi.jsp
Just checking because I had no idea if they did or did not...
http://www.delta.com/traveling_checkin/inflight_services/products/wi-fi.jsp
Just checking because I had no idea if they did or did not...
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
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Don't speak before you research.
We've got wifi on quite a few planes- I'm not sure about the status about "north" airplanes, but I know it is being installed.
That being said, I doubt they were on teh interwebz.
After reading in more detail their story that came out from the NTSB today- I think it's certainly plausible that they are telling the truth.
The north guys are going through a tremendous amount of changes (80% of their policies and procedures are changing and have changed to the south's version)- and the busses just changed over to the south's bidding. I can see how it can happen... though in no way is it excusable to not pay attention to Fifi.
Don't speak before you research.
We've got wifi on quite a few planes- I'm not sure about the status about "north" airplanes, but I know it is being installed.
That being said, I doubt they were on teh interwebz.
After reading in more detail their story that came out from the NTSB today- I think it's certainly plausible that they are telling the truth.
The north guys are going through a tremendous amount of changes (80% of their policies and procedures are changing and have changed to the south's version)- and the busses just changed over to the south's bidding. I can see how it can happen... though in no way is it excusable to not pay attention to Fifi.
WestIndian425
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Can you imagine wifi on the Diesels?! LOL!!!
WestIndian425
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I did! I know for sure SouthernJets has wifi on quite a few of their planes. NWA's fleet, particularly the narrobodies, were doubtful. I'll accept wrong if I am.Don't speak before you research.
We've got wifi on quite a few planes- I'm not sure about the status about "north" airplanes, but I know it is being installed.
That being said, I doubt they were on teh interwebz.
After reading in more detail their story that came out from the NTSB today- I think it's certainly plausible that they are telling the truth.
The north guys are going through a tremendous amount of changes (80% of their policies and procedures are changing and have changed to the south's version)- and the busses just changed over to the south's bidding. I can see how it can happen... though in no way is it excusable to not pay attention to Fifi.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
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That'd be pretty badass. One positive thing I can say about the merger is once DLs IFE gets installed on the NW planes, people are going to want to come back.
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
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The narrowbodies are primarily the ships that are getting wifi, as they are less likely to have personal entertainment systems.
I did! I know for sure SouthernJets has wifi on quite a few of their planes. NWA's fleet, particularly the narrobodies, were doubtful. I'll accept wrong if I am.
The narrowbodies are primarily the ships that are getting wifi, as they are less likely to have personal entertainment systems.
DitchDriver
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Hey kids... don't post here often and perhaps it's already been mentioned- didn't want to sift thru the pages of posts but what the NW pilots are claiming seems to make sense.. Side sticks with trays in front of the displays where a laptop could very easily obstruct their view- combine that with hats off and not listening and I could very easily see this happening... thoughts?
Hey kids... don't post here often and perhaps it's already been mentioned- didn't want to sift thru the pages of posts but what the NW pilots are claiming seems to make sense.. Side sticks with trays in front of the displays where a laptop could very easily obstruct their view- combine that with hats off and not listening and I could very easily see this happening... thoughts?
