Non-sequitur from “UA 787 Emergency”

Autothrust Blue said:
That would be because they may not be allowed, under the new PWA, to peep at you, depending on your sick leave usage in the previous year.
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Correct, I used 9.00 sick credit hours, and 0 the previous sick year, thus exempt from the GFB call per the PWA.

Anyways, not trying to be snotty or defensive, apologies if I came across that way.
 
Apophis said:
Correct, I used 9.00 sick credit hours, and 0 the previous sick year, thus exempt from the GFB call per the PWA.

Anyways, not trying to be snotty or defensive, apologies if I came across that way.
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That number bears a surprising resemblance to a new hire’s sick leave accrual, incidentally. I wonder why that's in the book..
 
Apophis said:
I mean, it isn’t, but you’re also kind of judging the entire place by a couple of incidents of hearsay.

Conversely, I’ve called out sick several times, including one the day of the 2nd ATL meltdown a week or so ago (was legitimately sick), and nary a peep.
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Well to be clear, I'm not judging. I think Delta is a great airline (err Air Line), and everyone I know there is quite happy in general. I like flying you guys as a passenger. My comments come from hearing regular chatter specifically about sick leave/state sick (maybe thats just a WA thing?)/120 lookback, and anything that happens to touch vacation. Just seemed a little weird, paranoid, and overreaching. But like you say, that's just my impression as an outsider.
 
We have a number who, that are sitting on reserve, literally want to file a grievance for getting called by crew scheduling.

It’s not so much a cultural issue as it is false expectations of what reserve means.
 
Apophis said:
You don’t even work here, so how would you know how “retributionary” things are?

There are several contractual exemptions from good faith basis calls as well as using more than 120 sick credit hours in the previous 12 bid periods.

Stick to Eskimo’s problems. You certainly have enough of your own over there.
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Dang why you so wound up?
 
BobDDuck said:
That you'd be a DEI hire... and you don't believe in that crap.
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Well that’s a nice cop out.



But since you went there, truth is, even libs think people like me only made it where we did because of DEI. Or, maybe put a different better way, that someone like me could only have made it where I did because for DEI. And that no scenario could exist where that wasn’t the case. Libs see someone like me as a victim, who is in need of saving.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Well that’s a nice cop out.



But since you went there, truth is, even libs think people like me only made it where we did because of DEI. Or, maybe put a different better way, that someone like me could only have made it where I did because for DEI. And that no scenario could exist where that wasn’t the case. Libs see someone like me as a victim, who is in need of saving.
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You missed the joke.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Well that’s a nice cop out.
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It’s true though. Especially after 9/11. Do you know how much pressure the airlines were under NOT to hire people from the Middle East (and even though you’re South Asian, Joe Doublewide is going to think you’re from the Middle East) because after hiring resumed?

Tremendous.

And there was backlash and pressure NOT to. One of our users here faced extreme backlash at a regional and then later at a ULCC because he was Afghani from both the flying public and from people at their employers.

There were efforts to make sure people got a fair shot and stood against the bumper sticker logic of “they attacked us in airplanes!”

But of course, you either forgot that. Please, go into a Trump rally and say you’re a Pakistani Muslim that wants to be an airline pilot and watch MAGA’s reaction. Many of us are trying to protect you, and other marginalized people, from that mentality. The America you think you live in may not be the one you… uhh… live in.
 
derg said:
It’s true though. Especially after 9/11. Do you know how much pressure the airlines were under NOT to hire people from the Middle East (and even though you’re South Asian, Joe Doublewide is going to think you’re from the Middle East) because after hiring resumed?

Tremendous.

And there was backlash and pressure NOT to. One of our users here faced extreme backlash at a regional and then later at a ULCC because he was Afghani from both the flying public and from people at their employers.

There were efforts to make sure people got a fair shot and stood against the bumper sticker logic of “they attacked us in airplanes!”

But of course, you either forgot that. Please, go into a Trump rally and say you’re a Pakistani Muslim that wants to be an airline pilot and watch MAGA’s reaction. Many of us are trying to protect you, and other marginalized people, from that mentality. The America you think you live in may not be the one you… uhh… live in.
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He won't believe you because he didn't see it with his own two eyes
 
derg said:
We have a number who, that are sitting on reserve, literally want to file a grievance for getting called by crew scheduling.

It’s not so much a cultural issue as it is false expectations of what reserve means.
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:rolleyes: And they’ll clog up the system with ridiculous grievances. I bet they’re senior enough to hold a decent line.
 
phill1174 said:
:rolleyes: And they’ll clog up the system with ridiculous grievances. I bet they’re senior enough to hold a decent line.
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My favorite was “I had an hour left in my short call period and they called me for a trip” that went into my “X” days, is this legal?”

(Legal as hell, Bruv)

X days are days that they’ll try NOT to schedule you into, but if they do, you get those days off back during the month).

Or when I was talking to a buddy in the office in SEA: “Scheduling called to assign a trip a RSV pilot they said they were out on the ski slopes and said he wasn’t coming in and how they needed to call someone else”
 
derg said:
My favorite was “I had an hour left in my short call period and they called me for a trip” that went into my “X” days, is this legal?”

(Legal as hell, Bruv)

X days are days that they’ll try NOT to schedule you into, but if they do, you get those days off back during the month).

Or when I was talking to a buddy in the office in SEA: “Scheduling called to assign a trip a RSV pilot they said they were out on the ski slopes and said he wasn’t coming in and how they needed to call someone else”
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I really don’t get the complaint especially if you all get the X days back. It’s inconvenient at worst.

🤣 That’s so ballsy it’s funny. I can imagine the schedulers reaction right after hearing that. I’d also like to be a fly on the wall for that section 19 meeting.

If someone doesn’t know their contract reserve isn’t what they should be bidding (unless that’s the only thing you can hold). I can’t speak for every company but the present employer will definitely press to test, or you’ll just learn what’s legal and scratch your head wondering how it’s legal.
 
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