Non-sequitur from “UA 787 Emergency”

MikeD

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derg said:
That’s what I’d tell my new hire OE students when they asked if I had any advice. If you get a call, DO NOT LIE (they’re not on a fishing expedition, they’re asking questions to confirm data they already have and establishing trust), if you did something wrong, admit to it when asked, do not steal or collect things that are not yours.

“Were you really sick or simply out of range for a short call assignment you missed?”

“Oh, I wasn’t feeling well”

[thumbing through pages of social media posts about your two-day park hopper at Disneyland]

(True story!)
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Performing a Successful Carpet Dance. By Doug.

Would be a good book.
 
MikeD said:
Performing a Successful Carpet Dance. By Doug.

Would be a good book.
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I’ve survived “The Big Brown Desk incl. the FAA” once, another event earlier in my career when Comair Academy attempted to have me fired and the whole “Queen of Sky” cluster where that FA tried to leverage my employer being OK with JC but not OK with her feet/suggestive pose in uniform website.

If people knew what I have gone through over the years to keep JC up and running, they’d be a little more respectful when I tell them I need them to chill.
 
derg said:
That’s what I’d tell my new hire OE students when they asked if I had any advice. If you get a call, DO NOT LIE (they’re not on a fishing expedition, they’re asking questions to confirm data they already have and establishing trust), if you did something wrong, admit to it when asked, do not steal or collect things that are not yours.

“Were you really sick or simply out of range for a short call assignment you missed?”

“Oh, I wasn’t feeling well”

[thumbing through pages of social media posts about your two-day park hopper at Disneyland]

(True story!)
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THIS!!

They're never going to ask you a question they don't already know the answer to.

And if they ask it twice, they're giving you one last chance.
 
MikeD said:
Performing a Successful Carpet Dance. By Doug.

Would be a good book.
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During the fed-level carpet dance, there were two stacks of paper, each about six inches tall. Literally every 9710, medical, company employment records, good letters, bad letters, sick leave has, literally everything.

Truth be told, there was literally a letter that @rausda27 wrote years previous about me helping him with his career which the chief pilot said, “if you revoke the captain, we have to at least suspend the two FOs and we’re not going to do that because these two (FOs) are as much the victims as the regulations the captain broke.

So we both got letters of correction that disappeared after six months and the captain got suspended. Do you think he ever said another word to me? Nope.
 
derg said:
People get their wrists slapped for doing dumb things. People get fired for lying about the small, but dumb things.
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I can count on one hand (and have some fingers left...like four or at least three) the number of people I've seen treated unfairly after having done something they knew damned well they shouldn't have. And both of them lied. Like deliberately, gloriously lied. So maybe not so unfair, after all.
 
derg said:
During the fed-level carpet dance, there were two stacks of paper, each about six inches tall. Literally every 9710, medical, company employment records, good letters, bad letters, sick leave has, literally everything.

Truth be told, there was literally a letter that @rausda27 wrote years previous about me helping him with his career which the chief pilot said, “if you revoke the captain, we have to at least suspend the two FOs and we’re not going to do that because these two (FOs) are as much the victims as the regulations the captain broke.

So we both got letters of correction that disappeared after six months and the captain got suspended. Do you think he ever said another word to me? Nope.
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Any word on how that other FO has been doing? He had a pretty rough life event a few years ago.
 
derg said:
Comair Academy attempted to have me fired and the whole “Queen of Sky” cluster where that FA tried to leverage my employer being OK with JC but not OK with her feet/suggestive pose in uniform website.
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I don't say this with any chip on the shoulder energy, but I have always been a little struck with the retributionary (is that a word? it isn't is it?) response that seems to jerk with the knee at widget. Automatic sick look backs, doctor notes, all is pretty business as usual at least at this particular CP office. That said, I'm sure that the internet generation is making this hard to avoid to be fair
 
///AMG said:
I don't say this with any chip on the shoulder energy, but I have always been a little struck with the retributionary (is that a word? it isn't is it?) response that seems to jerk with the knee at widget. Automatic sick look backs, doctor notes, all is pretty business as usual at least at this particular CP office. That said, I'm sure that the internet generation is making this hard to avoid to be fair
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*chuckles, then laughs uproariously in Brown*
 
///AMG said:
I don't say this with any chip on the shoulder energy, but I have always been a little struck with the retributionary (is that a word? it isn't is it?) response that seems to jerk with the knee at widget. Automatic sick look backs, doctor notes, all is pretty business as usual at least at this particular CP office. That said, I'm sure that the internet generation is making this hard to avoid to be fair
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It's all a matter of perspective. Your future seniority list friends have been saying the same thing about the Eskimo.
 
///AMG said:
I don't say this with any chip on the shoulder energy, but I have always been a little struck with the retributionary (is that a word? it isn't is it?) response that seems to jerk with the knee at widget. Automatic sick look backs, doctor notes, all is pretty business as usual at least at this particular CP office. That said, I'm sure that the internet generation is making this hard to avoid to be fair
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You don’t even work here, so how would you know how “retributionary” things are?

There are several contractual exemptions from good faith basis calls as well as using more than 120 sick credit hours in the previous 12 bid periods.

Stick to Eskimo’s problems. You certainly have enough of your own over there.
 
Apophis said:
You don’t even work here, so how would you know how “retributionary” things are?

There are several contractual exemptions from good faith basis calls as well as using more than 120 sick credit hours in the previous 12 bid periods.

Stick to Eskimo’s problems. You certainly have enough of your own over there.
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I mean, coming from a place where the only time you’d hear from a Chief Pilot when you were sick is if you did something really stupid like travelled while absent, or if you’d run out of said leave and they wanted to make sure you weren’t face down in a ditch somewhere, “draconian” is only a slight exaggeration. Just saying.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I mean, coming from a place where the only time you’d hear from a Chief Pilot when you were sick is if you did something really stupid like travelled while absent, or if you’d run out of said leave and they wanted to make sure you weren’t face down in a ditch somewhere, “draconian” is only a slight exaggeration. Just saying.
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Leave "Draconian" to us, but maybe you guys can have "Solonian". Like almost the same thing, but not quite.
 
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