Autothrust Blue
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Like, “actual” moderate, not “moderate.”
Incidentally I made exactly one unpressurized takeoff in the Deuce and promptly resolved I’d never do that again.
New FAA weights= Pain for the 50 seat community.
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Incidentally I made exactly one unpressurized takeoff in the Deuce and promptly resolved I’d never do that again.
ozziecat35
4 out of 5 great lakes prefer Michigan.
I’m up to 3 so far….
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
Eh it isn’t that big of a deal. Did them all the time in the 200 in the winter.
Here’s a great article from WSJ about the whole mess. The FAA said the goal of this forced weight change was to
The FAA says it’s pushing the change to make sure that aircraft are loaded in accordance with airplane flight-manual limitations. The changes increase safety by reducing the possibility of an overloaded airplane.
While airlines are supposed to keep up with passenger changes, the agency realized that weight gains hadn’t been updated in years.
Some airlines complain privately that the FAA won’t delay adoption of new weight standards until they get past the summer travel surge.
www.wsj.com
The FAA says it’s pushing the change to make sure that aircraft are loaded in accordance with airplane flight-manual limitations. The changes increase safety by reducing the possibility of an overloaded airplane.
While airlines are supposed to keep up with passenger changes, the agency realized that weight gains hadn’t been updated in years.
Some airlines complain privately that the FAA won’t delay adoption of new weight standards until they get past the summer travel surge.
Heavier Passengers on Planes Mean New Safety Limits for Airlines
A change in an FAA weight rule could result in more fliers getting bumped from flights and more baggage delays.
www.wsj.com
Autothrust Blue
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I am not entirely convinced that even the updated weights are high enough in some circles to match physical reality.
Van_Hoolio
Well-Known Member
I'm late to this thread, but I've always thought if you could weigh an airplane before departure like you could a tractor-trailer at a weigh station it would have a big impact on the industry.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
If you could weigh it on a large treadmill, and the treadmill matched the speed of the wheels, would it takeoff?
pljenkins
Resident Knucklehead
That's an understatement. Half the jets and all the turboprops would be no-go.
Anyone around here remember the "magic closet" in the B1900D?
Heady days, those.
But back to the issue at hand. Back when I was pushing -200's in the land of beer and polka, Los Federales had just upped weights from I think 165 to 185, and we were pretty screwed even then. Lots of making chicken salad out of chicken s***, but you learned how to be creative. With this latest weight change, I just simply cannot see how it can be done in anything less than cold, clear, chamber of commerce weather. I guess we could start putting first class seats in the RJ. Talk about a let down when you score the upgrade only to find you're on the BarbieJet!
Hell, here in WNderland, we are having issues. Always fun trying to explain why we can't exceed the ZFW to people who last heard about that during initial.
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
Uh…alrighty then!
Roger Roger
Bottom of the list
Technologically it would be pretty easy to do. Just build some strain gauges into a couple strategic parts of the landing gear system and voila…weight and balance. Clearly just no one wants to open that can of worms.
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
747 freighters have that.
Autothrust Blue
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Cans of worms?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Cans of worms?
That’s the inflight meal
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Cans of worms?
We’ve carried stranger things
