charlie1017
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Ackssssshually.... I know personally a guy in captain class there... Dec 2018.
Morbid curiosity. Upgrade times?
- Thread starter ZapBrannigan
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bretthullrampage
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Who cares when you can upgrade at Envoy!!!
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
You’re not thinking about doing it all again, again, are you? Just curious.
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Crockrocket94
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You can break SWA down even further an say, you want ATL, PHX or MCO Captain, add another 5 years lol.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
No. I made my bed (several times) and now have to sleep in it.
But when there's one outlier where upgrade times are more than double everywhere else, I think applicants need to know about it... and perhaps more importantly unions need to take into consideration recruitment, retention, and lifetime earnings when negotiating contracts in an environment of very lengthy upgrades.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
Ah, very good, just checking. And FWIW, I am not criticising your decisionmaking; we only ever do what we think is right in the moment.
Comair 100ER
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Looks like mid February 2018 is the most junior capt at delta. NYC A220 and DTW 717. 11,0xx numbers.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
The AE is out!
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
I can commiserate, some.Nah it's ok. I'm hard enough on myself.
Timing seems to be a much bigger deal than literally anything else, though, at this point. Further commentary requires a strong shot of whiskey.
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You'll fit right in with us if we're the surviving culture in the merger.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
I go back and forth on which one should survive, post-merger, but I also get the distinct impression the vast majority of us will simply shrug and read the Before Start Checklist rather than figuring out who's "real" whatever.
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That's my intended approach.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
"Oh good you're here and you even put on pants!"
amorris311
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THIS!!!!
Regardless of upgrade times today, we have all seen what happens when a fleet(s), bases, etc. get(s) removed. “What’s good today could be bad tomorrow.” Contracts should have backstops so if pilots get “stuck” in a less than desirable seniority position it isn’t the end of the world, financially. This should be true outside of aviation, think more traditional labor positions.
@ZapBrannigan i feel for you, hopefully the reps in your seniority band understand that it’s going to be awhile before making the transition to a seat that pays more. If my memory serves me correct, UPS pilots did just that within the last bargaining cycle or two. Best of luck with gathering the information then presenting it to your representative. The process can be painful but the industry, as a whole, should take note that these lulls could happen at any property in short order.
Kingairer
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I know this is captain obvious, but it’s the lack of wide bodies at SW that I’d assume keeps it close to the 50% mark to be a captain. Alot of these other places have wide bodies where people who have seniority to fly captain, choice to fly wide bodies instead, some for nearly their entire career. The result is seeing folks 75%ish on the global seniority list.
