Mesa to merge with ACA
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giants_fan
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LOL no I'm not JT
I stay in touch with him though, saw him this morning in fact. he was doing some CFI stuff out at KORL. I'm volunteering at a booth at NBAA.
I left Mesa in October 2000 - he left in March 2001 for Midway.
I'm at another regional and I upgraded to jet captain about a year ago. I am glad I made the switch but sometimes I regret leaving Mesa, because I would have upgraded about 1 year and a half earlier.
I stay in touch with him though, saw him this morning in fact. he was doing some CFI stuff out at KORL. I'm volunteering at a booth at NBAA.
I left Mesa in October 2000 - he left in March 2001 for Midway.
I'm at another regional and I upgraded to jet captain about a year ago. I am glad I made the switch but sometimes I regret leaving Mesa, because I would have upgraded about 1 year and a half earlier.
IrishSheepdog
Sitting in the median
You're worse than Tomcatter.
Phoenix_Son
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mmm In-N-Out...
eww Mosquito Abatement...
eww Mosquito Abatement...
John_Jones
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John- why are you even trying to fool everyone with your Giants fan bull sh*t? Do you think we're all stupid?
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Dude-Chill...Not brining myself to a conclusion or anything but you'd look like a pretty big idiot if it turned out JT and GiantsFan werent the same person...Take it some-where else if it doesnt have anything to do with the MESA/ACA merger...
John- why are you even trying to fool everyone with your Giants fan bull sh*t? Do you think we're all stupid?
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Dude-Chill...Not brining myself to a conclusion or anything but you'd look like a pretty big idiot if it turned out JT and GiantsFan werent the same person...Take it some-where else if it doesnt have anything to do with the MESA/ACA merger...
ERAU_Intern
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Naw, dont say that! I spent 13 weeks working for ACA in Dulles this summer, and I can tell you that it really is a GOOD company with STRONG management. NOBODY would have an easy time in the situation they are in. Just wait it out, ACA will come out on top. Maybe they will merge with Mesa, maybe not, but I know one thing. The second I get a call for an interview, I'm out the door!
giants_fan
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That's pretty funny
I should keep you wondering ...
But no really, if you saw us you would see that we look completely different LOL
He's a lot older than me for one thing - I just turned 31!
I should keep you wondering ...
But no really, if you saw us you would see that we look completely different LOL
He's a lot older than me for one thing - I just turned 31!
aloft
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The ACA brand would likely cease to exist (think TWA). ACA is headquartered at Dulles (IAD). For the rest of your questions: http://www.atlanticcoast.com/ and http://www.mesa-air.com/
davetheflyer
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Sorry to take so long to jump in on this, but I've been on a four day into Canada and access numbers for my ISP were in short supply. When I found one, it was on a very short overnight.
We are collectively very not excited about Mesa's offer. Our management keeps pointing out that this is an unsolicited offer. Our union reps are also pointing out that Mesa and UAL are the only parties that would benefit from the takeover:
UAL because then they wouldn't face us as an LCC through IAD, which apparently terrifies them. Mesa because (a) they would have access to our IAD gates and (b) our airplanes for their UAL contract. From what I've heard, Mesa has thus far been unable to find financing for the aircraft they need.
In spite of JO's claims, there is not one pilot at ACA that wants to work for Mesa (at least none who is willing to admit it). Mesa's new scope may prevent us from meeting the same fate that CCAir pilots did, but we would still be taking approximately 30% pay cuts. A lot of people have indicated to me that if Mesa acquired us, they would make plans to leave ASAP.
A couple of points to ponder here are that Mesa's offer was in the neighborhood of $500 million. I think that it would take much more than that to make the plan work. I think that we have enough cash reserves to put up a good fight.
Secondly, I have heard that our provisions against a hostile takeover are somewhat weak. Tied with the fact that a lot of our shareholders may be speculators who would welcome a quick profit, it looks like the next couple of months will be interesting.
Finally, there have been other rumors floating around as well. The big one is that due to scope issues, Delta will buy the Dojets and crews and give them to Comair. That option is sounding better all the time.
PS Giantsfan, you may not actually be John Tenney, but you two guys are the only people that I have run into who speak highly of Mesa. I welcome you to do a search for my discussion with John comparing pay rates. Mesa was significantly lower.
We are collectively very not excited about Mesa's offer. Our management keeps pointing out that this is an unsolicited offer. Our union reps are also pointing out that Mesa and UAL are the only parties that would benefit from the takeover:
UAL because then they wouldn't face us as an LCC through IAD, which apparently terrifies them. Mesa because (a) they would have access to our IAD gates and (b) our airplanes for their UAL contract. From what I've heard, Mesa has thus far been unable to find financing for the aircraft they need.
In spite of JO's claims, there is not one pilot at ACA that wants to work for Mesa (at least none who is willing to admit it). Mesa's new scope may prevent us from meeting the same fate that CCAir pilots did, but we would still be taking approximately 30% pay cuts. A lot of people have indicated to me that if Mesa acquired us, they would make plans to leave ASAP.
A couple of points to ponder here are that Mesa's offer was in the neighborhood of $500 million. I think that it would take much more than that to make the plan work. I think that we have enough cash reserves to put up a good fight.
Secondly, I have heard that our provisions against a hostile takeover are somewhat weak. Tied with the fact that a lot of our shareholders may be speculators who would welcome a quick profit, it looks like the next couple of months will be interesting.
Finally, there have been other rumors floating around as well. The big one is that due to scope issues, Delta will buy the Dojets and crews and give them to Comair. That option is sounding better all the time.
PS Giantsfan, you may not actually be John Tenney, but you two guys are the only people that I have run into who speak highly of Mesa. I welcome you to do a search for my discussion with John comparing pay rates. Mesa was significantly lower.
giants_fan
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Well I don't work at Mesa anymore and my friends tell me that things have changed a bit there recently.
I had a great time there and did ok money wise. I was more interested in fast progression than cash anyway. Heck if wanted to be rich we wouldn't be pilots
I had a great time there and did ok money wise. I was more interested in fast progression than cash anyway. Heck if wanted to be rich we wouldn't be pilots
davetheflyer
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Heck if wanted to be rich we wouldn't be pilots
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I've stopped dreaming about getting rich. I'd just like to have a real steak with my ramen noodles and mac & cheese once in a while.
Heck if wanted to be rich we wouldn't be pilots
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I've stopped dreaming about getting rich. I'd just like to have a real steak with my ramen noodles and mac & cheese once in a while.
MissedApproach
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Finally, there have been other rumors floating around as well. The big one is that due to scope issues, Delta will buy the Dojets and crews and give them to Comair. That option is sounding better all the time.
[/ QUOTE ] That sounds like a pretty good deal for you. How would your seniority be integrated with Comair?
Finally, there have been other rumors floating around as well. The big one is that due to scope issues, Delta will buy the Dojets and crews and give them to Comair. That option is sounding better all the time.
[/ QUOTE ] That sounds like a pretty good deal for you. How would your seniority be integrated with Comair?
