Mesa Airlines

Trip7 said:
Once again simple advice to stop ragging on Mesa EFBs and look at the big picture goes completely over the JC Mafia's head and turns into a public attempt to dissect how one made it to their dream job. Many on here clearly understand my message. You and a couple other continue to miss it. Statements like "I'm glad OBAP got him a job" and your continued assumptions of what I believe luck is back that up. Keep looking at things from a jaded and extremely limited view, and you will continue to wonder why not me. Darwinism at its finest moment.

I toss you a softball right down the middle and you don't even swing? Perhaps @Gonzo message was softer and you'll react differently.

Not really sure I see anyone saying "why not me." I honestly see a lot of guys that are doing what they've always done and being patient. Their (our) time will come.

I am busy and happy enjoying my life thanks to hard work and passion outside of aviation.

Good luck to you Marcus, since that's all you'll need.
 
I toss you a softball right down the middle and you don't even swing? Perhaps @Gonzo message was softer and you'll react differently.

Not really sure I see anyone saying "why not me." I honestly see a lot of guys that are doing what they've always done and being patient. Their (our) time will come.

I am busy and happy enjoying my life thanks to hard work and passion outside of aviation.

Good luck to you Marcus, since that's all you'll need.

Josh I've known you for a while so I will try to get through to you.

With all your undercover self promotion of your post graduate academic success, you're shockingly slow at picking up the big picture of ideas and concepts. This specifically reminds me of your thought process when ASA's new PBS system was up for vote. Your intense focus on minute details clouded your view of an overall fantastic system.

Here we are with similar thought process on Luck. The whole "luck" issue started in that very thread you just posted when another user mentioned I failed to mention the "Luck Factor" when advising folks to stay positive and take advantage of opportunities that arise. My response of "Luck=When Preparation Meets Opportunity" was taken as condescending. The article I then linked came across to you as "Luck is all you'll need". Couldn't be further from the truth.

My take from that article is individuals who are deemed lucky are not so due to pure dumb luck. It's due to having a Big Picture view of things and not getting caught up in minute details. This allows them to take advantage of more opportunities because they have better vision to see those opportunities arise. The "unlucky" seem to get wrapped around the axel on the smallest details and view the things from a narrow, possibly jaded perspective. They miss opportunities that arise because they are too focused on minor details. Your trolling of Mesa EFBs in multiple threads is a prime example of this narrow thought process.

I can assure you, with your current thought process I would have never made it where I am today. I would have missed too many opportunities that came about do to viewing things thru a very narrow scope. You have to change that.

"Move up the Food Chain" is not meant to be taken as snapping your fingers and have luck take you to where you want to be. It's about looking at the big picture, staying positive, preparing for an opportunity or creating one, and taking advantage of that opportunity when it arises. The term wasn't even created by me. I took it from a mentor who years ago text a young regional FO who was blasted on this very forum for being too positive in a dark industry that "with your attitude, you will be where you want to be soon".

Move up the food chain.

If you can't at this point, be creative and create opportunity.

Otherwise, aren't we all just rasslin' over the last few sauce packets at Taco Bell?
 
Ok, can you make a post or maybe write A perspective for @Derg.

I would never qualify for the OBAP or the WIA scholarships but I am sure some members would love to hear about how the process works. Maybe talk about your volunteer work like with ACE I think you did an excellent job combining volunteer work with Aviation.

Sorry I missed this post earlier. My, or generally, anyone's path to their dream job is unique. While exactly what I did won't work for everyone, the mindset behind it will. That's why I post about general ideas like finding/creating opportunity. If anyone has any questions about my exact path, feel free to PM me. I have an open door policy:)
 
What I don't understand is why suddenly working to move up the chain and raising the bar at the commuter level have become mutually exclusive. It's well known that I don't often agree with the seggz but when he was in the trenches he didn't just work to make his joint better he put his job on the line to do it and I gotta have respect for that.
 
Thanks @Trip7.

I suppose I appreciate people that are proud of the accomplishments they have made in their life due to hard work. Somewhere along the lines it appear to me that you were placing a great deal of your career progression success solely on "luck" and failed to give yourself credit for the work put in.

Step back for a moment and you just might see how it is being perceived, not just by me but by many others that have noticed.

I conduct a great deal of annual training for some of our nation's most junior military forecasters and a concept that I stress is being confident in your accomplishments because these very new, but knowledgeable, individuals in a very tight community will be asked to make operational decisions that require a very clear Go / No Go recommendation. They have to own that decision, regardless of how the end accuracy plays out. It builds conviction but it also builds something else. It builds a great deal of confidence and provides a strong sense of pride in the work they have accomplished but are also providing to our end users.

While you may think I am attacking you I am also trying to reinforce to many others that it is perfectly okay to work hard for what you want and to acknowledge that you achieved your desires because of some of that energy.

In any of my arenas in life I prefer to work with hard workers who believe in themselves rather people who settled on believing luck gave them what they need.
 
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Thanks @Trip7.

I suppose I appreciate people that are proud of the accomplishments they have made in their life due to hard work. Somewhere along the lines it appear to me that you were placing a great deal of your career progression success solely on "luck" and failed to give yourself credit for the work put in.

Step back for a moment and you just might see how it is being perceived, not just by me but by many others that have noticed.

I conduct a great deal of annual training for some of our nation's most junior military forecasters and a concept that I stress is being confident in your accomplishments because these very new, but knowledgeable, individuals in a very tight community will be asked to make operational decisions that require a very clear Go / No Go recommendation. They have to own that decision, regardless of how the end accuracy plays out. It builds conviction but it also builds something else. It builds a great deal of confidence and provides a strong sense of pride in the work they have accomplished but are also providing to our end users.

While you may think I am attacking you I am also trying to reinforce to many others that it is perfectly okay to work hard for what you want and to acknowledge that you achieved your desires because of some of that energy.

In any of my arenas in life I prefer to work with hard workers who believe in themselves rather people who settled on believing luck gave them what they need.

Agreed 100%. Glad to see we've come to common ground after clearing up a misunderstanding.
 
Just got hired on at Mesa, judgment aside, what can I expect. Yes I know it's not the greatest, but it's jet time and a start. I've heard from people post bankruptcy Mesa is way better than pre. And what should I know before training? Any help is appreciated.

Welp, welcome to the airlines.
 
That said, it would seem to me that requiring pilots to buy their own iPads might cause some headaches, such as with standardization. And what if some FAA inspector doesn't like the fact that you bought this model vs. that model.
 
Excuse me... Honda Accord Coupe EX-L V6. All that extra makes a difference. And it's also kinda a tie between the Accord Coupe and the Nissan 370-Z. Both really tickle my fancy, a lot.

Time for another Tokyo thread drift, I just googled the 370Z and you guys weren't kidding, that thing looks amazing! The price isn't too bad either, if they ever decide to make a four door model I might be tempted.
 
Time for another Tokyo thread drift, I just googled the 370Z and you guys weren't kidding, that thing looks amazing! The price isn't too bad either, if they ever decide to make a four door model I might be tempted.

The looks aren't the same, and I'm not quite up to speed, burnt think the Infiniti g sedans are based on the 370. They don't look nearly as awesome and are pretty expensive. But that's about as close to a 4 door as you're gonna get.
 
Time for another Tokyo thread drift, I just googled the 370Z and you guys weren't kidding, that thing looks amazing! The price isn't too bad either, if they ever decide to make a four door model I might be tempted.

The looks aren't the same, and I'm not quite up to speed, burnt think the Infiniti g sedans are based on the 370. They don't look nearly as awesome and are pretty expensive. But that's about as close to a 4 door as you're gonna get.

The old two door Infinity G35 is/was built off of the 350/370Z platform. The G35 sedan is built off of the Altima sedan platform. The new two door G37 coupe, which replaced the old G35 is now built off of the Altima coupe platform. Yuck.
 
The old two door Infinity G35 is/was built off of the 350/370Z platform. The G35 sedan is built off of the Altima sedan platform. The new two door G37 coupe, which replaced the old G35 is now built off of the Altima coupe platform. Yuck.
Move that little piece of crap out of the way. :D
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