Meetup/Retreat

Dacuj

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Any Envoy cadets out there listening on this channel.....

If you have any interest, I'm putting together a weekend retreat coming up in October for all current pipeline instructor Envoy cadets. Also, any cadet in their first 6 months at Envoy is welcome also. Planning on a weekend of North Texas fishing and golfing with some campfire gather rounds sprinkled in to go over flow through projections and what to expect in your first year at the Voy.

Just shout out if you are interested.
 
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This might possibly be the creepiest thing I've read on this website.

If anyone is even considering this clown show go-to NJC or the RTAG conference. Actual networking with good people.
 
Story posted courtesy of ABC News:

"Several young men were reported missing in a northern Texas county in what some police officials are calling, 'the strangest mystery in the county's history.'

The young men, ages 23-27, were employed as airline pilot Cadets at American Airlines subsidiary Envoy Air, which houses its main offices in Irving. Officials are determining the cause of the disappearance and where the men were headed."

This story is breaking, check back often for updates.
 
Any Envoy cadets out there listening on this channel.....

If you have any interest, I'm putting together a weekend retreat coming up in October for all current pipeline instructor Envoy cadets. Also, any cadet in their first 6 months at Envoy is welcome also. Planning on a weekend of North Texas fishing and golfing with some campfire gather rounds sprinkled in to go over flow through projections and what to expect in your first year at the Voy.

Just shout out if you are interested.

Extraordinarily creepy and highly discriminatory against those not anointed to be part of the Envoy group… this reads like a NAMBLA advertisement.
Does American know you are going to cover official flow through information during an unsanctioned campfire event? Wonder if they appreciate the liability exposure you are offering them here at no cost.
 
Extraordinarily creepy and highly discriminatory against those not anointed to be part of the Envoy group… this reads like a NAMBLA advertisement.
Does American know you are going to cover official flow through information during an unsanctioned campfire event? Wonder if they appreciate the liability exposure you are offering them here at no cost.

It's not an official event covering official info. What exactly are you trying to get at? Last I checked, folks were still free to meet and discuss things such as career paths and progression while enjoying some fishing and golfing on the side.
 
I'm just curious. Would you fine folks on this website prefer that I not opine here? I'm simply posting information that is relevant to the subject title. AIRLINE PILOTS. Everybody thinks they know something or have better advice. Everyone is free to share but I wonder if I get blasted because many of you are working at sub par outfits with no chance at American.
 
I'm just curious. Would you fine folks on this website prefer that I not opine here? I'm simply posting information that is relevant to the subject title. AIRLINE PILOTS. Everybody thinks they know something or have better advice. Everyone is free to share but I wonder if I get blasted because many of you are working at sub par outfits with no chance at American.

I think we’d all hate it a little bit less if it didn’t seem like you were touching yourself every time you posted something.
 
It's not an official event covering official info. What exactly are you trying to get at? Last I checked, folks were still free to meet and discuss things such as career paths and progression while enjoying some fishing and golfing on the side.
So why exactly would anyone take time away from their family to meet with a random stranger from the internet to tell them how great their “employer” is. It’s in quotes because they aren’t employed by American as much as you want to tell yourself at night.
 
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Any Envoy cadets out there listening on this channel.....

If you have any interest, I'm putting together a weekend retreat coming up in October for all current pipeline instructor Envoy cadets. Also, any cadet in their first 6 months at Envoy is welcome also. Planning on a weekend of North Texas fishing and golfing with some campfire gather rounds sprinkled in to go over flow through projections and what to expect in your first year at the Voy.

Just shout out if you are interested.

Is that Garrett tool from Piedmont going to be in attendance too, hocking viagra? Both of you to together for the WO's, it sounds like a party. Or a Boy Scout sleep over.
 
I'm just curious. Would you fine folks on this website prefer that I not opine here? I'm simply posting information that is relevant to the subject title. AIRLINE PILOTS. Everybody thinks they know something or have better advice. Everyone is free to share but I wonder if I get blasted because many of you are working at sub par outfits with no chance at American.

You are not getting blasted because many of us are working at sub-par carriers. You are getting blasted because you are in the top ten (if not top five) of the oddest members on this website. Ever. If you didn't realize that, I'm sorry. If this persona is truly you - the real you - I'd be happy to chat off-line to explain why you receive this exact same reception on every single aviation forum you've ever been on. However, if this persona is just that, a persona, then yes, we prefer you not opine on this website. This website has a long history and culture of not being like the other sites frequented by people not really being themselves.

Here's a chance to prove you're a real human being. Just address these questions honestly to prove you're not a troll and you'll at least get that recognition.

What has Envoy's attrition been then last few months? Why are those pilots leaving when they have a flow? Where are they going?

What is the plan to address Envoy's pay and benefits disparity versus places like Endeavor?

What are the plans to address the work rules and scheduling issues not found at other regionals?

Besides the flow, why is it worth it for someone to go to Envoy? (E-175s is not an answer). All of these are serious questions, especially this one. In 2017 I had offers from Envoy and a bunch of others. I didn't choose Envoy for pay, 401k, benefits, work-rules, and scheduling concerns.

Address those questions honestly and seriously and enjoy coming into the fold of this community just a little bit. Don't, and it's more of the same for you unfortunately.
 
You are not getting blasted because many of us are working at sub-par carriers. You are getting blasted because you are in the top ten (if not top five) of the oddest members on this website. Ever. If you didn't realize that, I'm sorry. If this persona is truly you - the real you - I'd be happy to chat off-line to explain why you receive this exact same reception on every single aviation forum you've ever been on. However, if this persona is just that, a persona, then yes, we prefer you not opine on this website. This website has a long history and culture of not being like the other sites frequented by people not really being themselves.

Here's a chance to prove you're a real human being. Just address these questions honestly to prove you're not a troll and you'll at least get that recognition.

What has Envoy's attrition been then last few months? Why are those pilots leaving when they have a flow? Where are they going?

There has been attrition. I'm not going to lie. But there is always attrition. A nice percentage of the attrition comes from, non cadets. And, RTP guys make up a good part of that too. They go everywhere, including LCCs. Personally, I find this the biggest career mistake you could ever make but I can't control what one thinks or does.

What is the plan to address Envoy's pay and benefits disparity versus places like Endeavor?

The company has met with the union in the past over some of these items. Unfortunately they haven't been able to come to an agreement.


What are the plans to address the work rules and scheduling issues not found at other regionals?

See above. There have been several meetings on reserve.


Besides the flow, why is it worth it for someone to go to Envoy? (E-175s is not an answer). All of these are serious questions, especially this one. In 2017 I had offers from Envoy and a bunch of others. I didn't choose Envoy for pay, 401k, benefits, work-rules, and scheduling concerns.

Where else can you go right out of college and step right into your lifelong career at the largest major airline in the world? One interview and when your number comes up you simply transfer. Not any of this re-interviewing like some others do. Envoy pioneered the cadet program and for those who qualify, it pays lifelong dividends.


Address those questions honestly and seriously and enjoy coming into the fold of this community just a little bit. Don't, and it's more of the same for you unfortunately.
 
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