Ya, I really struggle with how you'd do a real masters in a hard science online.
Yet they look to be regionally accredited. So.....Not saying all online masters are crap. Some are legit. But a lot of them are just shady, and nothing more than a pay to print operation.
A quick google of my own state shows this available for online degrees:
https://graduatedegrees.online.njit.edu/lpppc-njit-all/?Access_Code=NJIT-MBA-GOOGLE&kwd=+engineering masters +online&kwdmt=mbm-njit-collab&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2b-esLjz1wIVFoGzCh2zfgaMEAAYAyAAEgKsTfD_BwE
Going by website design alone, the thing looks shady as hell.
Ya, I really struggle with how you'd do a real masters in a hard science online.
Ya, I really struggle with how you'd do a real masters in a hard science online.
I don't. Times have changed - and for the better. ASU will let you do an ABET accredited undergrad in engineering online - they send you the lab materials and you set up a web cam to monitor you to make sure you're not cheating.
I totally think it'd be reasonable to do a masters in a hard science online if you had the lab equipment (if it's even necessary for your chosen field of study). Don't see it being problematic at all.
For something like math or comp sci, it should be the standard, but it's not.
That’s the problem Soku was alluding too that’s infected the military progress structure.
You don’t need a masters to get there, you need one to “stand out” from your peers and progress.... So get a masters... any masters at all.
There is no incentive to do a hard program because it’s not about the program it’s about demonstrating you suffered and “progressed.” Doing something actually difficult and expanding may help you in other values but in the values that are used in your actual job it’s basically worthless and actually detracting from your actual job (being an advisor/Officer).
The reason it gets that way is when the people reach leadership and attempt to take the path they followed and make it the deemed most desirable to be emulated in the new caste. It’s possible in any industry and I would urge great caution amongst yours because us over here where it already took in roots.... you can’t kill it even when the top guys try.
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What a joke compared to a real engineering program, you know, where you actually had to be there and show up on time. Plus, not everyone can afford an industry grade wind tunnel in their own home, so there’s that...
Engineering degrees online are a joke. Perhaps the first two years, yes, it’s mostly gen ed, basic physics, math, etc. but the last two years are specialized and you really have to have a true classroom and lab setting. Plus, engineering is a group work/think/solve. You’re only doing yourself an injustice doing it online.
It's ABET.
You must be one of those guys who got really mad about that dude in oregon.
Accreditation? To me an online program saying “we’re accredited and approved!” is like a regional airline saying they are safe and don’t cut corners because they have an ASAP program and no fatalities so far.
Now you’re truly talking what I call “the pilot” way. No two craps given about quality or caliber. Just accreditation because that’s what Delta and Fedex truly require, and check the box in doing so. I know many real life workin engineers, none of them got their 4 yr degree online.
And what’s the guy in Oregon? Does he own a college degree mill that prints upon payment?
You ever done any online courses?
This is the guy in Oregon:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...50d0b15f83b_story.html?utm_term=.09a35af6502c
No I haven't. But as pilots, I can see how that's pretty much a necessity if you didn't get a traditional college degree between 18-22.
That guy should have just accepted a ticket. Obviously it sounds like he's getting the short end of the stick because he's trying to call out a system based on his experience and qualifications. If he moved here, he should have just ponied up and gotten the appropriate qualifications and license to be an engineer.
So you're much more qualified to comment on this than I am, but I sometimes worry that the "inability to fail and still progress" cancer that is/was all over the civilian world during the recession has infected the military. When I read about guys getting drummed out for legit mistakes and accidents, I worry that we may be promoting people who've never actually failed at anything substantial in their lives.
Failure is important to learning how to be good at what you're doing - and yeah obviously massive failure for abject incompetence can't be tolerated, but still it's been my experience that the worst (and least desirable people to work for) had never actually failed or forced real adversity where their consequences had real life consequences beyond themselves.
Chester Nimitz ran a destroyer aground - what the heck would have happened to him today?
The zero defect mindset is still very alive and well. It’s not unique to the military, but our up or out model of progression definitely fosters its continued and expanding existence. Some of it can also be blamed on the extremely short development process and review time leaders have. In your 19 months as a platoon leader you compete with 5 - 12 other peers... you F up something and they don’t. Regardless of magnitude you are the guy that everybody hates, like the kicker that misses the wining field goal when the entire offense has underperformed the whole game. You don’t get that time back. There is no “let’s keep him here and develop him.” You will go forward with a red when everybody else has green and across the board that may be the reason you find yourself out whenever the next review comes up.
It’s mistakenly called a meritocracy, but without some vital components or placing the wrong priorities to really be one. The other big part is the never make your boss look bad to his boss attitude, which is why something like an accident can still be career ending when it wasn’t even truly preventable. You got X number DUIs in a month in your command... you only had 9 safety briefings instead of 10... obvious failure in leadership (when really you’re being punished so they can get the bigger boss off their back).
It is one of a dozen traits of demonstrated counterproductively in what our real role is and how we should yearn to achieve it.
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I don't think I've ever once used one, for varying reasons.
Well it’s through an accredited university and when the regional “employer of choice” forces me to work 95 hours a month with 11 to 12 days off maximum I don’t have many other choices.
Bought a ham with mine this year, got together with the roomies and made a nice dinner.
12 bucks is 12 bucks!
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I just rolled my eyes too hard, I got dizzy and fell over.Why didn't they just gift us with $12.... It would have been more than the 1% pay raise accrual throughout the entire year.
I do that when I see my paychecks.I just rolled my eyes too hard, I got dizzy and fell over.
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If nothing else, a good MBA will be helpful when the furloughs start.